Nerf Scharnhorst Armor or make it 8.0

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Maybe making it so modules repeatedly knocked out have longer and longer repair times as penalty, but permanently being defanged is really really unfun. Alternatively I suggest that modules “heal” slowly from knocked out to red, orange and so on during repairs if they are destroyed very frequently. That would also include crew filling the station more and more as modules came back online.

Permanent turret destruction was a thing back when I played the other Ships game (haven’t played it in a couple years so I don’t know if it’s been changed), and while rare, losing a turret or two for the entire duration of a battle really really really didn’t feel good. Some ships would end up losing turrets constantly to the point that you’d regularly have to resort to “the oversize guided torpedo of last resort”.

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528

So kinda like the crew healing in ground RB? That’s not a bad idea

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529

Yeah, but only when repairs are initiated, so Scharnhorsts don’t become even more of a pain to kill. Crew healing far as I remember is automatic after a little time.

530

You know, I’m all for making the game more realistic.

BUT

At this point, scharnhost either needs to be removed from the game, or its armour needs fixing so it’s not a goddam deathstar sailing into your spawn. And by fixing, I mean reducing it’s armour protection so it represents a sensible value in the game.

How has this disgraceful state of affairs not been fixed yet?

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531

I’m all for fixing it. In the meantime, I will be using it to finish the upcoming naval event stages. About 8 (maybe fewer) games in a Scharnhorst will get you the 45,000 points you need for the 2 days of the event stage. It makes finishing the naval events so much easier.

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532

Or if nothing else, its counters need to be unnerfed.

Hood and Rodney for example should be able to punish it hard, but too many rounds miss (or at least miss from the exhaust vent sized spot you need to aim for) from the shell dispersal nerfs to do meaningful, reliable damage

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533

The Hood and the Mutsu are the only ships I have a decent chance of going one on one with a Scharnhorst and feeling like I can win.

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534

Yep, sometimes Scharnhorst pops instantly, others Im laying salvo after salvo into her and doing absolutely nothing

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535

Face it twice in my US 6.0 cruiser lineup today, cant do anything against it at all

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536

Yeah, though that isnt necessarily a Scharnhorst issue but rather a Cruiser vs 7.0 BB issue. I doubt there is much you could do against an Amagi, Hood, etc other than be annoying. I quite enjoy making USS Des Moines explode on my first salvo

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537

Add Barham to that list as well…shots going all over the place…it actually felt better with less crew skills…

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538

Yeah, Hood, Renown, Repulse, Barham, Warspite, Royal Soveriegn, all have the exact same guns. So all equally affected.

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539

Those ships should really be 7.3 at least.
They absolutely dominate

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540

Yeah… if not 7.7/8.0. Allow a little more space for Cruisers as well.

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541

Indeed, i love the Cleveland and Helena, but in 8.5/10 games you face battleships that you cant kill that nukes you instantly.

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542

Hopefully the new mechanic which is being introduced will finally put the dammed thing to bed.

543

From devserver testing thread, it seems it will make Scharn even stronger

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544

sooner we get submarines, the better, scharnhorst is just too unkillable.

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545

I am just playing 5.7 for the event to avoid the unobtainium armored demon

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546

Me too

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