At that distance no missile is a real threat, you can fly like nothing until it is at 10km of you, launch a missile to the enemy and go for the notch.
That’s purely on just notching and see when it loses track. It’s either yes or no. Also we are doing this with about mach 1.5 speed at 10k alt which is unrealistic but just to ensure the kinetic is not the limiting factor.
Sorry, i think i am not following you
Fire the missile at maximum kinetics, just to see the seeker performance against chaff. You might just need to scroll up a bit. This is about whether 96 chaff is plenty.
Ahhh, then yes, 96 single pops from Flankers are enough.
4 pops while notching and changing altitude will get that missile to lock in to chaff
Wrong, only at extremely close ranges you would need to drop so much chaff
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With the exception of MICA EM, All of them should react to chaff equally. though large calibre chaff is about 5.5 times more effective than regular chaff.
So where something like an F-16 or F-15 needs to drop around 5-11 chaff, something with large calibre like the J-11B? (I dont know what CMs it has off the top of my head) should only need to drop 1-2 to match relative “strength”
My experience in the Tornado Gr4 defending against AMRAAMs with the large calibre chaff it carries would support that fact. If anything, I have an easier time to defending in the Tornado Gr4 than I do in the Typhoon (running only BOL Chaff)
Well I mean I seemingly just see it still on me, the missile within 25km can definitely consistently (1 in 2) ignore 5-10 chaff. Further away like 30km it’s way worse, 5 chaff could do it very consistently. But I am in 25 more than 30 if I want to fire back.
i mean I had multiple experiences when I got rid of all my chaff and it’s still on me. I didn’t do alt change in tests though cause that ruins the point.
IDK how well it actually works, I just chaff in bursts of 2-3 until the missile is either obviously behind me or it’s lost completely.
There are dozens of factors.
Ive defeated an R-77-1 with a handful of BOL chaff, and othertimes its taken 100s
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I dont see an issue, you fired a missile at low speed at a target that was a higher altitude than you. Those are not optimal conditions to begin with as clearly shown in the display to the right of the radar panel. You were no where near the LSZ (launch success zone) (the box) and thus if the target changed direction signficantly, it would be unlikely to hit.
If you had waited longer (even just a few seconds and fired after the target had changed directions) or gained more speed before firing, it would have easily hit.
I could replicate this with AMRAAM fairly easily.
Also… My god Id kill for half the Su-30’s radar performance on the Typhoon. You never once lost track of the target, in the Typhoon Id have spent most of that time just trying to relock the target, or just switching to a hard lock
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Have you ever tried r77-1? Cause these kind of aburd statement feels like you dont have any idea how they perform
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Blud youre firing a missiles at at target above you and far from you, you did that whilst subsonic.
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This missile is inferior and hit at a longer distance than the 77
Instead of nerfing something that doesn’t need to be nerfed how about decompress the BRs to allow airplanes with less capabilities breathing room in their match makers?
If i launch a missile from the ionosphere it will also hit
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You fired this derby from a significantly higher alt and against a passive target, any fox 3 will hit such a slow target headon at 7k meters.
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As others have said, you fired from a far better position.
Instead of loosing energy climbing to the target, it gained energy by descending to the target
To give an IRL context to this. Sea Harrier FA2s firing Aim120Bs used to outrange Tornado F3 firing the same all the time because despite the fact the FA2 was at about Mach 0.8 and the F3 was at about Mach 1.1+. The FA2 would fire from 30k ft Vs the F3s normal alt of 20k ft.
Launch altitude has a huge impact on range