Gaijin went out of their way to refuse modern information about current Leclerc protection, as the UK and Swedish tests were within French requirements, but didn’t meet the others.
We don’t have unclassified information easily accessible though, just what Ukraine and Russia think about the current Leclercs.
But they still want exact numbers and layouts and refuse to make any guesstimates on the vehicles.
The armor protection was increased, but by then everyone lost interest. It would make a soft target otherwise harder to penetrate, as the Leclerc still has an excess of dead weight modelled.
So as it currently is, Gaijin thinks that a prototype Leclerc has the same level of protection as an SXXI. Which is why it’s been such a big deal to have the problem recognized.
The Leopard 2A7V as it is, is still one of the most survivable MBT’s currently. As frustrating as it likely is, it’s still in a very good position.
Given how underpowered (according to what sources we do have, the SRAAM has half its actual range) and buggy (we all know how buggy SRAAMs are) the missiles are, why can’t ours come down to 9.3?
“Nobody”, there were quite a lot of people ok with it, there was petition, more people voted in favor for the T-90S rather than other unique British vehicles.
My first thought is that voting against Russia is more of a protest vote so they don’t get more T series tanks than they need.
The majority would have preferred the Challenger Falcon if you look at the other poll.
Last I checked in every poll with a substantial number of people involved in it, a majority voted no, either because they didn’t want a T-90 in the British tree, or thought development efforts would’ve been better used on other more unique vehicles, which were somewhat related to Britain.
Another thought is that in a poll, everyone can vote. Meanwhile those directly effected by it are USSR, UK, and Indian players.
The poll referenced is the one where we all knew it was coming, it was a protest vote against it going to the UK by a UK player.
I wouldn’t want a U.S or USSR player telling me what vehicles I should or shouldn’t have.
Which at least to keep this on topic, loops back to Swiss vehicles as French, German, and Swiss players are the ones effected by where these Swiss vehicles go. The F.58 being another example where a jet they’ve wanted was taken from them.
One of the people above referenced a poll, which was likely yours. Which can easily be spun in a way to favor an argument.
So enjoy your stay here I guess, leave a like if you want too as well.
there is another one coming, it’s pending for approval.
it’s the Mle 1987 with an improved engine, improved turret and new suspension, new transmission, new chassis, and a new turret with APFSDS, laser rangefinder and night vision.
I believe it could be a replacement for the SK105A2 as the performance would be essentially the same. you trade a bit of turret stability (due to the fact it’s not centered) for a better top speed and much better reverse speed.
Update worth commenting on.
• The SAMM TTB140 was added and replaced the AMX-10 RAA.
• The AMX Mk32 replaced the Mowag Trinity.
• AMX-13 FL-15 (1987) added and replaced the K21-120.
• The link for the Jaguar was changed to one from the modern forum
•) VAB TA-23 replaced the AMX-10 RAA
I’ve been looking for some Tropicalisé but I have only found S1 and S2 armor packages of this vehicle. The last tropicalisé from Eurosatory 2016 is, actually, a S2. Considering the quite extensive modifications applied to the chassis, without the vehicle being commercially viable, I don’t think S21 where ever “tropicalized”, aside from the XLR upgrade that brings everything the EMAT Leclerc lacked compared to the tropicalisé and AZUR kits
