Navy Arcade Sucks Now

yes I already wrote this(!) - but the buff goes only vs planes as the bluewater was buffed in the same way vs. coastal and planes together
Shooting with 40mm vs a destroyer which can answer with his artillery is a uneven challenge…

They should answer cause if they don’t 40 mm kill them in a minute or two with new HE mechanic and constant fires maybe even faster if they repair and wounded. 40+ mm guns now quite dangerous for DD 4+ and deadly for 3.3+


I already tried to explain to you the dynamics of angry customers!!
I also don’t see any wave of happy customers.

**Are you giving us the noobie speach now? No more arguments to press your narative I guess…

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happy customers don’t go to forum to celebrate their happiness, they play the game that they enjoy

actually in modern days only small amount of customers use forums to communicate with developers

So you finally you got it.

Sure, happy customers don’t read the forums or reply to posts.
You are the happy customer exeption then…

I see the same on Redid and Steam

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I think there is only one solution for this dispute. Just make in-game poll. Not the forum one, let’s be real it’s not even a 10% of playerbase visiting forum, reading reddit or steam.

Also, as someone said before here or on another thread, unsatisfied minority could often just be much more vocal thus creating illusion of majority. Probably this is exactly such case.

Maybe gaijin should have done proper campaign on such drastic changes, like again, why not just use the client itself for that. Make a poll in news block or atleast guide people on dedicated forum discussion. And only then make a decision based on results (wich I think may really surprise those who are veeeery mad at new system)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/?f=flair_name%3A"Navy"

You see what you want to see, on Reddit for example where half million users there a barely couple of treads with 1-2 post that someone pissed off by new aiming and there more than enough replies for that - that it’s ok, most of the treads are about the bugs.

Yep that will be more accurate.

We are asking this from day one but they are avoiding any interaction regarding naval changes.

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Yeah, but aside with that I read numerous comments like “look everyone hate this changes”, which is… doubtful. Nearly equal opinions on both sides that I would believe

maybe it should called “at least nearly everone participating in this forum” dislike the changes.
And everybody which uses planes frequently in naval AB must also dislike them as planes are the one part which were nerfed w/o having any advantage from the aimbot update.

And what quote people here do represent of whole playerbase? Just only honest.

Like I don’t defend the new system, I’m not very glad it looks like dumb point and click from first point of view, comparing with WT mobile etc. I’m always against all sorts of simplification and making things more casual. But when I see comments kinda “it totally sucks and unplayable” like… what?

And what about planes? Yeah now you can’t more fly straight like you are eating yogurt meanwhile, that on long range. But is it so hard and bad afterall? In close range mostly nothing changed. I’m constantly capping bases on scout plane playing 5.7 even in 3km range lol

this wasn’t possible before the aimbot - but now you can be targetted precisley from a far larger distance as before (the now obsolete lead indicator is only visible at close distance). I see far less planes in low-BR matches as before and most of them are killed w/o making any points.
In addition GJ increased the probability for hitting bombs in-fligth by gunfire. This is a second nerf to planes as quite often a dropped bomb doesn`t hit where it otherwise did.

BTW - I still play naval AB - its not unplayable (except the bugs) but I still dislike it - as naval RB has a number of mechanics I don’t like

maybe because they are just bad? Yes, it was easier before but what, people can’t learn stuff? You never will be sniped in long range if you don’t fly straight, even with HE-VT. Don’t see any problem now. I also see people still scoring kills, nothing bothers them. Probably exactly coastal is anoying… a bit.

It’s been for a long time in Air AB atleast. Not sure about naval, maybe they just also enabled this, or due to less precise fire before update it only happened on occasions

as coastal is my main gameplay area (made most of fun) I feel more negative affected as bluewater players

These changes to Naval AB have definitely soured me on spending any money on Battle Pass or buying GE for sales.

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I think the only poll running is the one created by SilentTracker.

You can vote here

I mean opinions from everybody who plays naval, not 190 active awared dudes (out of how much? few thousands in a minimal extent). You can’t know without vivid spoiler in hangar making you to vote. But believe, results will differ a lot

I don’t disagree, they did it very succesfully for tank crew changes

A lot of us tried. They’re not accepting “suggestions”. Thus, here we are. Voicing the only way we can.

of what? lol.

You’re doing a lot of gas lighting, and it’s not just me saying it.

There are literally 4 Posts about this. The most recent one THIS one.

Feels like a lot of people are unhappy about.

I’m glad you love it, Kweedle. Good for you. The rest of us don’t. And that’s what we’re here to say.

Because it suks. …I don’t care that there are bugs. The game is BROKEN. You can’t release a BROKEN MESS, and LEAVE IT THAT WAY for WEEKS without addressing the issues of the community OR letting them make suggestions, and expect them not to be upset.

They released a BROKEN MESS of a system, that isn’t fun, or interesting, or skill based gun play. It’s an experience like NOTHING in War Thunder.

I’ll make a suggestion in Tanks Arcade for the same aiming system.

“Tanks Arcade is too hard because players are confused when they aim. Players should be able to drive their tanks full speed and fire at OTHER tanks going full speed by just pointing their crosshairs at the enemy. It’s too hard in the current ARCADE system. And I can’t see the other tank when I’m trying to do it. Implement Naval Arcade aiming in Tank Arcade”

Wonder how that would go in that community.

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Assumptions are the mother of all fluff ups.
They don’t use polls to collect player base statistics.
They know just how many/few are playing.