Naval mode is finally dead

I know, my question refers to the old aiming in arcade.

Just dropped in a 4.3 German Costal match and was obliterated. No one is driving lil’ boats. They’re vaporized seconds after spawn. My Me410 HEVT’d 5s after dropping. It’s unplayable. Bluewater might feel different but, this is really bad.

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So, after playing a bluewater match, in which I actually got to play the entire match, I wondered, “Does this not favor players with more crew points? Since you have no idea where your guns point, or how you’re aiming? You’re leaving it up to the AI gunners to do it all for you. So doesn’t that mean that players who put more money and time into Crew Points are always going to do better than newer players? If this was to help new players, it isn’t really, is it?”

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The crews won’t help you on the manned guns, will they?
But the smaller guns were always better off with better crews in auto mode.

I am currently researching the new BB with the Arizona. It isn’t really more or less exciting than before. Which means it is boring. I usually die once and use a backup. Just don’t spawn a plane.

Well, I’m not 100% on crew mechanics but if, there is Aux, AA “Accuracy”. Looks like you have “control” of Main Caliber, but there’s a LOT of fire power coming out of those AA and Auxiliery. I know the German destroyers sometimes main their smaller caliber guns to chew up lower tier destroyers. That’s at least one advantage in a ton of fire power.

Then a boost from leadership.

Curious on where the “targeting data” comes from and if crew have an effect.

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If you man the main guns, crew AI takes over the others. And yes, they can score some hits, even before the update nuked the game. But only vs planes and closer targets before. Don’t know how it is now, cause I stopped playing the mode, aside for the new US BB.

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I think the current changes are felt FAR LESS the bigger the ship you go. It’s like it was with BB’s in mind primarily, with all other ship and boat combat unconsidered.

I’m not surprised if players living at that 6.7 BR in NAB aren’t as upset as Costals.

Costals is just… fahked. I have end tier BBs, I just… don’t like playing them. Slow moving. Slow firing. Not much to do. I find costals (or did) way more fun. Way more maneuvering. Way more skill. It’s a blast to torp big ships not paying attention.

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Oh I agree. I prefer coast gameplay or early destroyers. But the US BB is the only US vessel I am missing and I like to get the US trees complete again. So while I can fire auto directing shells with 30% research bonus, I take that opportunity. God knows what the fix to this mess will be.

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Lol. This is the silver lining. Maybe I’ll try to grind out that IJN Amagi

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Indeed, I’ll try to make the most of it. This is not the time to spade brittle stuff.

As far as crews go, I have 9 US crews and two days ago, the last one turned full/full/full. So I accept that gunners won’t get much better… ;-)

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Unfortunately with this they also restored ai access to fire main guns in arcade, for whatever reason

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this is totally my point!

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LOL. Yeah. You can literally just… afk in your BB while the primaries fire off at whatever you’re targeting. I think this is what people are mostly doing. …How the Devs have taken such a massive step into destroying this gamemode… I have no idea. I have NO IDEA what anyone was thinking. I can only presume that they weren’t.

Does anyone who develops NAB actually play it?

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Really sad. How could you have destroyed the game so much? It is now a sin to be on a boat.

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The AI bots are a nuisance. This is supposed to be a PVP game. All they do is cause annoyance. Why don’t they ever match 6v6 players without bots? The maps are too small for anything more, resulting in another constant annoyance: RETURN TO BATTLEFIELD or go explody in 69 s…so irritating.

Anyway, I’d embraced the new changes solely on the hopes that it would increase player numbers/hasten queue time, but that hasn’t happened at all. Seems like the opposite, actually.

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With this point and click, I can easily watch a movie/youtube video. On this aspect, I think its a win. It seems Gaijin is concerned about improving multitasking and helping people in real life more than we imagine. Much thoughtful, many nice.

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…I’ve tried to make the best of it by windowing, reducing graphics and size, and putting it aside while I do other tasks but, when I want to play a game, I want to play a game. I could try to find a game I REALLY play while I afk farm War Thunder Arcade Naval but… I’d really rather have a game that’s enjoyable ;D Like this one used to be.

I’ve got a “suggestion” pending. First time I’ve done this so I won’t be surprised if they send me back to the drawing board. If people making asinine suggestions got us here, maybe it can get us out.
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probably it ain’t gonna pass cause it not suggest any improvements neither compromises just the request to revert all back

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I really enjoyed your commentary and point of view. The videos were awesome, thanks so much for sharing those too. Therein lies the heart of the problem: A battleship isn’t a tank. It has hundreds of crew performing thousands of tasks and how do you distill those into single operator solutions and maintain “realism” ? Answer: you can’t - the realism argument is simply fatuous. And sometimes suspect, in that there are those who have ‘gimmicked’ the existing mechanic to their advantage (much like the spoiled brat fighter ‘pilots’ taking advantage of over nerfed bombers), and they don’t want to lose their advantage. So they sow a make believe argument that it isn’t “realistic”. Personally I like the new mechanic; since it came out the majority of sketchy gimmicking I have encountered now is lag and ddos booting. The aiming playing field has been leveled out and is mostly fair. Now I just wish they would decompress the trees from 7.0 to 12.0

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I guess we’ll see. I think there’s a compromise to see the return of markers, and that’s in there so [shrugs]. Dumber things have been accepted. We’re all living that truth now.

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