Naval mode is finally dead

You still here encouraging spam? Not surprised.
Imagine heeding ones own advice:

Lies.
The topic is clear as day:
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Your continued misleading of people in these forums is also not surprising.
But it is an eye sore.
If only you played the game as much as you played the forums (45 battles last week slow down!),
Things would be different for sure.
No wonder NAB is dead.

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the tracers from your shells are also client side and are inaccurate :)
gets really silly when you play speedboats and see your tracers trail behind enemies while still somehow hitting them

clearly not enough premium packs tovsrisch))) have a tirpitz for mere 90 american roubles)))

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It’s not enough that I have to put up with constant uptiers and losing streaks that sometime last for weeks. Now I get more uneven BR matches, sometimes a few in a day… and I don’t play that much anymore. Full load of enemies with highest BR while our team has NONE or just 1. One team top BR heavy while my team lowest BR in match heavy. Nothing makes sense in this game anymore. I lost count of how many matches one bloodthirsty team wiped out mine made out of sheep and window lickers. I also lost count of how many times I was alone in the middle of the game near two cap zones while my team kept spawning with destroyers in the cruiser spawn in the far corner of the map. I also lost count how many times I killed as many or more enemies than my entire team. How about times when my shells do no damage while I get obliterated by some lower BR enemy? Something does not add up here.

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I’m running on premium time fumes. 2 more days left from the 10 I got from the last BP. My premium time has run out in June or so. Not buying any more and doing very little just to get by with the last and this BP. The 10 from this BP will probably activate for the next Naval event. After the Holidays, with the next BP, there is a very little chance that I will do it. If they add submarines, that will be yet another reason for me to stop playing. Not interested in this when teams are small as they are now. If you have 4 players on each team and 2-3 start with submarines, good luck facing enemies all by yourself. It will take them years to figure out what to do with some “proper” gameplay. No more being a Guinea pig and paying for it.

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Do you even saw replay from enemy perspective he got you right in to ammo stowage. Primauguet is interwar ship almost without any armor - so very fragile. What you expected?

There is no destroyer spawn on South Kvarken encounter map.

Maybe cause you don’t understand clearly why that happening and how damage system works?

That’s probably from these loadouts that have different shells with different velocities. The faster ones will hit the target while the slower ones fall behind later. Everything in this game is FUBAR now. As a result I get less income and it’s harder to complete specific tasks. Even half a year later, when they started screwing up everything in this wave, the tasks are still way too grindy for the rewards that we are getting. At this point, the BP should be free (you can still pay to get the extra levels). The rewards are just not worth the effort.

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how do you even play this game mode, I spawn in a destroyer and get killed in spawn by a cruiser in his own spawn point. what am I supposed to do? this was Arcade and every time I spawned in the same guy killed me in spawn from his spawn. Just like the rest of the game gaijin is only concerned about pumping out vehicle models and not actually making a game.

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I’m going to be blunt: if you’re 11km+ away from most cruisers, you shouldn’t have any difficulty evading the average player’s fire in arcade.

Problem is, most people like to face tank instead of duck, dodging and weaving. I get it; the tracers are sometimes hard to see. There’s a simple fix: the exhaust from your smokestacks makes shells [very] easy to see so you can use it to your advantage to see if incoming fire is directed at you.

Evasion is a mixture of turning, abusing your ship’s listing characteristics and throttle control. Granted, the best solution is to not take fire ever but that’s not realistically possible.

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‘what do you mean listing characteristics?’

When a ship turns, it lists a certain degree. We’ll use HMS Dido as an example; when she hard turns at full speed, she lists almost 45 degrees. This exposes her underside, allowing for a potentially easy ammo detonation. [However], if I hard turn in the opposite direction to force a list towards where I’m about to turn, the game keeps that list well into where I’m actually turning, so shell fire will hit the deck (which likes to send shells to the void for some reason in Dido)

Soyuz remains to be literally the reason why I stopped playing Naval…

And it seems Gaijin will NEVER address it at this point.

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I was dodging but multiple people were shooting at me and I couldn’t get to any cover as well as not actually seeing the guy who was shooting at me and hitting me as he was obscured by an island. even still why do we want people to be exchanging shots at spawn? some maps are so bad that the put the destroyer spawn opposite the cruiser spawn. Overall I really dislike the game mode and gameplay doesn’t flow especially on some maps.

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I do agree the spawn points being both direct Line of Sight and within range of each other is ridiculous. This is part of what made pre-Leviathans Scharnhorst so dominant in the first place aside from the now fairly rare within 10km spawn at 6.0+

The mechanics aren’t the current issue, the maps are either lazy (open water with no terrain and a death circle cap), heavily in favor of one side or just lack any sort of cover for ships period.

Palau Islands, which is the newest map actually has some thought put into it… Except the spawns are directly within LoS.

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it’s common that everyone targets the weakest ship in the enemy fleet - so as destroyer in a cruiser match one is the primary target. As long kills give more mission points as accumulated damage (or kills count for BP tasks) this will ever happen. It shouldn’t be possible to shoot from spawn to spawn - but this also happens on most maps even in the coastal areas (e.g. north sea). I would prefer a mechanic in which the precision of shots depend on the number of salvos already fired at the target and not a perfect targetting from the start. This would also help the coastals which are battered in their spawn by bluewater ships.

Have in mind that the maps were designed for the old targeting system which still exist in Realistic.

Being in direct line of site is not that much of a probem when you actually need to target your shots.
In fact it is realistic an engament would start when LOS is established and given you are in guns effective range you have confidence will score hits.

Naval battles are usually on open water, having an island to hide behind is GJ idea of “how to” but this is not realistic.

Mechanics actually is the problem but they are more concern on “fixing” the repair system than for example realizing that capture the flag is no ones priority.

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There’s a point where the pursuit of realism needs to be thrown out the window. Open water maps is one of those points. I also don’t want to hear ‘but warthunder is realistic’ when it quite frankly isn’t.

Flag caps are also often exposed and it’s usually suicide to capture a point unless you know the enemy can’t kill you. Mechanically, naval is [mostly] fine with some exceptions - ticket bleed being one of them.

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Yes we have debated about this many times in this 1500 long post but there are certain aspects that make the core of a game.
I do not expect the realism of '‘Sea Power : Naval Combat"’ but we have drifted completely away to the point it feels we play CS.
You now have the ability to jump + duck and use GJ own Cronus Zen to shoot with precision, this fundamentally changed the rules we are playing but game mechanics and maps remained the same.

That’s an interesting idea though it seems like it would be difficult to balance

Quite the opposite, the distances are now doubled, LOL

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