- Yes. They should recieve additational munitions.
- No. Leave those vehicles as it is.
Game mode:
- GRB
Vehicles affected:
- Namer RCWS-30
- Namer Tsrikhon
- Eitan (wich is obviously gonna get the exact same treatment)
Issue with following vehicles:
Both types of battle modules found on those vehicles lose all of its munitions after being hit once. No additational belts found in the hull of those vehicles, except for two spike missiles.
Why is this a huge issue:
- Namers are extremely slow and cant really capture points for resupply in 99% of cases
- Unlike BMPT’s it has absolutely no armor against 120/125 mm shells so those vehicles cant effectively engage MBT’s frontally
- Unlike BMPT’s its 30mm belts getting blown away completely, not living any ammunition left except maybe 5-8 shots
- Munitions used on those vehicles are extremely unreliable due to bushmaster accuracy/damage and spike missiles struggling to deal damage at all
- right now 11.3 in GRB plays only against 12.0-12.3 BR. Most vehicles you face are nearly impossible to kill with those IFV’s kit.
Examples of similar vehicles found in other tech trees:
-
Puma VJTF (Germany):
(+) much faster
(+) faster turret traverse
(+) much harder to destroy its 30mm belts
(+) if its currently loaded belts gets destroyed, you can still rearm due to additational belts stored in a hull
(+) time fuze rounds
(+) while being objectively better vehicle, sits 0.3 BR lower for some reasons -
KF41 (Italy):
(+) much faster
(+) much faster turret traverse
(–) can be oneshoted to the turret
(+) if its currently loaded belts gets destroyed, you can still rearm due to additational belts stored in a hull
(+) sits 0.3 BR lower -
EBRC Jaguar (France):
(+) much faster
(+) much faster turret traverse
(–) can be oneshoted to the turret
(+) doesnt have an actual ammo in a turret
(+) huge difference in firepower - it can reliably penetrate t-80/90 in a side aspect with its main canon
(+) time fuze rounds
(+) sits 0.3 BR lower -
BMPT/BMPT-72 (USSR):
(+) much faster
(+) faster turret traverse
(+) huge difference in firepower - doesnt fight USSR MBT’s for obvious reasons, have much better rate of fire which is critical, can reliably aim for a weakspots with its atgm
(+) huge difference in armor - cant be penned at 90% of its frontal aspect
(+) huge difference in survivability - the rest 10% of areas which are actually can be penned frontally, cant be considered weakspots. APFSDS often gets stopped by a drivers face or just passes through the vehicle, killing driver and engine but ignoring ammo in the hull
(+) BMPT version having two additational crew members
(–) worse gun depression angles
(–) worse reverse speed
(+) BMPT version having time fuze rounds
(+) for some absolute unknown reasons (jk) gets ammo box, so it can practically never be left without ammo
Honorable mentions:
-
2S38 (USSR)
(+) faster vehicle
(+) faster turret traverse
(+) huge difference in firepower - can penetrate any vehicle frontally with exception of most heavily armored Leo 2’s
(+) PF rounds
(+) nearly impossible to ammorack by hitting turret
(–) worse gun depression angles
(+) same survivability because of fuel tank
(+) sits 0.6 BR lower -
Freccia/Freccia OWS 30 (Italy):
(+) much faster
(+) faster turret traverse
(+) huge difference in firepower - much faster firerate of 25mm in case of regular Freccia, 10 Spikes, unlike 4 on other vehicles
(–) regular Freccia can be oneshoted to the turret
(+) sits 0.6 BR lower
Given Israeli IFV’s losing its ammo after being shot once with 30mm at the turret and not being able to rearm most of the times in case of Namers, I consider them inferior to all of their counterparts in other tech trees.
My proposal is to add 8 additational spikes in the hull of Namers and Eitan instead of 2, as well as 200 additational 30mm rounds (2x100 shells like in Puma) so those vehicles can be actually useful because of quantity of its munitions and not being “bricked” by a one random 30mm shell randomly hitting its unmanned turret.
Why is it fair:
- Namers and Eitan have enormously large crew compartment meant to carry infantry with its munitions and weapons. its obviously can be used to transport supplies such as its own munitions.
- BMPT’s got additational munitions in case of supply boxes even so there is absolutely no space for extra missiles and 30mm belts inside
