My takes on BR's, F16A, F16AM and other French vehicles. What are your opinions?

At its current BR, the F-16AM is significantly weaker than its counterparts. The AIM-120A and AIM-9L/M missiles are outdated and heavily outperformed by R-73s and R-27ERs, making BVR combat nearly unwinnable. Furthermore, the Su-27SMT and other Flankers have superior radar, maneuverability, and missile systems, giving them an overwhelming advantage.

French Vehicles Are Unfairly Balanced:

French vehicles are consistently placed at unfair BRs, have limited loadouts, and lack competitive viability. Many Leclerc variants were recently moved to Rank 8, creating massive gaps in the lineup. The French 8.0-9.0 range is particularly unbalanced, leading to unnecessary struggles.

  • French vehicle BR issues: Reddit thread
  • French tanks ranked unfairly high: War Thunder forum review
  • High-tier France ground ruined by updates: Forum discussion

Requested Fixes:

  1. F-16A and F-16AM really really need a BR review and access to better loadouts/missiles if they are to remain at these BR’s. The fact that the F16A is at 13+ br with no radar missiles is disgusting and just foul.
  2. French vehicles require fair BR adjustments and loadout balancing. Sure the new BeNeLux makes the grind a lot easier but the vehicles are still all at funny BR’s that don’t make much sense. However this is more of a global issue with the game, as a lot of planes from 11.0 to top tier are placed at obscure br’s.
  3. Missile effectiveness should be reassessed to match or balance the other planes, if one doesn’t excel at BVR they maybe might have an easier time in closer dog fighting. Well that was the case with the A and AM but now the JF’s and all other flankers outturn this and have better prolonged turn rates than those of the A and AM. I grinded air top tree to realize that the Rafale is the only saving face for the french air tree. The 4k used to be it but now it’s also facing similar issues, it’s a great dog fighter but no capability to even get close to BVR or do anything to shrug off aim120b’s since half the maps (MOSCOW AND SINAI) have barely any ground cover to play with. Those are literally half the maps that are being played at top tier ARB. There’s Mysterious Valley that is quite good because even if you dont have chaffs or your plane is just bad you can sneak around or use terrain cover ie.

This is ragebait, right?

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No the F16A and AM in France have mediocre radars. Lock limit at 19km and 6DL Iirc. Aim120A are bad and they dont get aim120b.
Edit: TWS is very iffy with 120a, they often go dumb. So far from what I experience. I haven’t had such issues with R-73 and 27er.
Cheers.

They’re the same missile
Also you don’t face issue with the ER because hardlock doesn’t do stupid N001 things, yet it is still bad

Nope, sadly I must correct you the B has way better tracking and CCM.

They’re literally identical

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I stand corrected, in-game values seem copy pasted. Well I guess I just suck at slinging aim120s.

Bruh, you don’t even have a plane that carries the R-27ER or R-73.

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Diff acc. But thanks bruh.

IRL they’re identical too, apparently. Only 120B had the necessary electronics to do a firmware update or something

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Yes, the B has EEPROM and a new signal processor. Hence the better tracking.

Aim-120s are much better than R-27ERs, mostly due to the fact that they are ARH rather than SARH.

The 13.0 variant cant go down unless they lose their 9Ms. Plus this is more of a compression issue than a France suffering issue.

Those maps are multipathing heaven, just abuse it and you shouldn’t die to any radar missile.

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This would be what I’d expect a Russian AI to spit out; just gonna be sincere with that.

As for the bulk of your post not addressed by others.

F-16AM has a radar range of 75km, not 19.
R-27ER and AIM-7F are inferior to AIM-120.

F-15A/Su-27 being under-BR’d doesn’t mean F-16s are over-BR’d.

This feels AI generated …

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Wow this person must have played a lot of Russian top tier planes to have this strong opinion about them. I might even learn something from them. Let me check what is their most player Russian plane.

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No it doesn’t. Exactly the same.

this thread is wild aint no way you said SMT when there is no T it has the same fuel load as the 27