Actually give me a genuine valid reason why its any worse than anything else at or around that BR?
And why is it easier to kill than any other light tank at or around that BR. Again the issue isnt its survivability anymore, Its the fact it has substantially more powerful gun than anyone else.
Oh no, soviet main having to aim for a weakspot.
That is just hilarious. have you actually played it or just making stuff up now?
a tank with worse pen
163mm vs 210mm
tiny ammo rack
24 rounds vs 148 rounds
no remote turret
A hit to turret will not just disable the gun, but likely kill 2/3 crew
2S38 is NOT OP for sure. Sure, it has 57mm autocannon with decent penetration, but it’s still a glass cannon. Remote turret doesn’t help, because unlike the BMPT, if you shoot the ammo belt in the turret it goes boom.
If you’re playing MBT against 2S38, the only scenario where it can kill you is when you:
a) miss your shot
b) it catches you from the side
both are applicable to MBTs aswell
Crew is positioned in a way that you can kill it no problem, even if you go center mass shot you still hit the ammo which makes it go boom. All it takes is knowledge. Just look how this thing is built via in-game x-ray mode and that alone makes you prepared against 2S38.
It is capable of doing AA role - it’s very effective against helicopters. You can even shoot down jets - this is if they are unaware, flying straight and not keeping any distance from the battlefield area.
I’m talking from experience, because I played 2S38 a lot. Any conscious and aware player will take you out without a sweat.
Non-existent surivability, appallingly bad mobility (for a light tank), slow rate of fire and weak post pen. Your reload rate is too slow to disable cannons and your post pen is too weak to kill in 1 shot.
You simply do not have the time to sit there and aim and spam weakspots meanwhile everyone else just has to hover their mouse over you and you’re dead. And you don’t have the mobility to flank. Nor small size to play like a rat.
Reload rate is irrelevant if you’re gonna die in the 1st shot exchange (which you will).
Like I said… and yes it has to do with survivability. Huge size, ammorack and 3 leg touching crew members. You simply cannot tank a shot in this thing.
Lol. I have reached rank 8 in US, Germany, Russia, Sweden, Japan and rank 7 with UK and Italy. But go ahead, call me however you want, whatever makes you sleep better at night.
Why is the concept of mobility so hilarious to you? Look up my stats if it’s so beyond your comprehension.
Nice cherry picking.
Pen is irrelevant, you still have to aim for weakspots.
irrelevant, again
I already explained how that doesn’t mean anything. Why are you so stubborn? Do you even read what I’m writing?
Still has way higher chance of survival than the 2s38 lol
Yes. You got one thing right. It’s slower but can eat a shot if you’re lucky.
Better survivability, gun depression and most importantly way higher rate of fire. You can actually disable cannon barrels with this tank.
Its average, but has the advantage of an unlimited ready rack, no reload like other light tanks.
Post pen damage is directly porportional to pen. A round with higher pen will usually always have better post pen damage.
Its not
So why have i been one shotted loads of time?
Then can all other AFV/IFVs that have the exact same problems get 220mm pen rounds and unlimited ready racks?
Because the 2S38 is faster than most MBTs and light tanks :D
You picked the cherry
how is it not relevant?
A remote turret still means a smaller target in hulldown, given the BR, you will mostly face tanks with no TVD or only Gen 1 TVD. spotting a hulldown 2S38 turret is extremely hard. This gives a significant advantage at times. 2S38 is a monster in hulldown and more powerful in open ground than most light tanks due to its increased firepower.
How?
So can the 2S38 though?
How?
3 degree difference
for 24 rounds, then substantially slower.
and you can with the 2S38. Stop pretending you cant.
As you have switched to insulting me I will assume you have no counter agument and have therefore agreed with my point that hte 2S38 deserves to be at 10.7 or 11.0 and you like many others, just want to keep OP premiums at low BRs where they can continue to cause problems