2s38 is utter trash that used to be OP back when it was first introduced when the ammorack was much smaller and there was a bug that it wouldn’t detonate right now it’s completely useless
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You lose duels to a 2s38 with leo 2a7? LOL
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Because I gave Gaijin money just to watch every NATO nations being dominated at top tier against the assumed bias.
It’s unacceptable.
Good riddance, 9.3 can finally breath again.
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shell shattered
it cant even keep its gun on target while going over a small curb
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Yeah it is atrocious, 10.7 is still far too low, it needs to be 11.7 like the HSTVL.
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Clearly proofs Germany OP and 2S38 has to go down /s
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I uptier the 2s38 to 12.7 and do just fine, you’ll be a okay bud
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If you think the 2S38 is OP in almost February 2026, I got a bridge to sell. Survivability? It’s got none. Hull down won’t save you. Ammo? It’s ok for an IFV. Fire rate? Meh at best. Autoloader is easily knocked out and without it you can’t fire. IRST? A lot of other IFVs also have IRST. HEVT? You also have it on the Begleit. So how is it OP? Cause it killed you from the side? That’s a skill issue. For you.
HSTVL is vastly superior to your precious tank.
Nor do any light tanks at or around this BR, the 2S38 is not unique because it cant take a hit
It makes you a substantially smaller target to see and to hit, this is a notable advantage given the remote turret that not all AFVs at this BR have, many you have to expose yourself far more to do the same that the 2S38 can. The remote turret also means that no crew is lost if only the turret is hit
| 100m | 500m | ||
|---|---|---|---|
| Ajax | 156mm | 150mm | |
| PUMA | 120mm | 114mm | |
| CV90 | 113mm | 108mm | (CV90 uses Bushmaster which is common on a lot of vehicles, including the Namer-30 at 11.3) |
| STRF 90C | 169mm | 163mm | |
| 2S38 | 222mm | 210mm | |
| Bag-57 | 133mm | 119mm |
2S38 has substantially more powerful ammo at this BR. Unless im mistaken, the only autocanon that beats it, is the HSTVL at 12.0 and that only has 273mm at 100m. Not that much more.
Fire rate isnt listed on the wiki for autocanons, but it seems fairly decent to me, certainly not RADEN slow, but maybe beaten out by the other AFVs. but They have limited ready racks. Ive been caught out a few times in the Ajax where ive needed to stop and hide somewhere to let the ready rack reload, 2S38 has an essentially unlimited ready rack as its the full belt.
It appears to have the exact same aircraft tracker as the Ajax, cant comment on the others, but I dont think its universal. This gives the 2S38 a great ability to deal with helis, low flying jets and drones, especially combined with the HE-VT
Some like the Ajax have HE-TF and AHEAD, others like the PUMA only have AHEAD. This does give the 2S38 a lot of ability to play flexi role. HE-TF works but no where near as good as HE-VT. The larger round also likely makes quite a difference in terms of AA
So… When directly compared to its competition, its either identical or a lot stronger. Especially its darts which are incredibly strong for an autocanon vehicle. The fact its only now going up to 10.7 and only 10.7 is actually kinda insutling.
If you consider the 2S38 so bad, maybe its not the 2S38 being bad that is at fault
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compare the strf 9040c to the 2s38. 50 pen less, 26 round ready rack and slow reload, 2/3 crew in turret, better fire rate but worse postpen. and only gets -3 more depression. Clearly far inferior and shouldn’t be at the same br.
2s38 will survive a br increase…
Ah, you should see mine…
8/10 ragebait
11.7 might be too high but give one reason why it couldnt be 11.0?
And?
Ive fought it and I have common sense, but the fact you defaulted to attacking my stats instead of answering the question I shall assume you have no answer to my question and are like most Soviet mains just wanting to keep their under BRed vehicles under BRed
Why should an AFV with substantially more pen than nearly any other autocanon tank in-game not be at a higher BR than it is currently. Why would an Autocanon tank with over 200mm of pen not be appropriate for 11.0 when there are tanks with barely a 100mm of pen currently at 11.3?
Nice to see all these cultured and reasonable 2s38 owners coming out of the woodwork right…
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And this tank is good on paper but in practice it isn’t.
You’ve “fought” the most easily killable tank in top tier and you consider it “undertiered” its pure skill issue and ur stats don’t lie
Substantially more pen doesn’t mean JACK because you still have to aim for weakspots like every other IFV. Funny how you don’t mention the absolute lack-luster post penetration. Wonder why. Couldn’t it possibly be that you have no experience playing the thing?
Other light tanks have this thing called MOBILITY. 23s8 is slower than every mbt and has no armor or surivability. Other IFVs have the engine in the front which can actually tank a shot unlike the 2s38 which has saturn sized ammorack with 3 leg touching crew members
Doesn’t matter, people can still knock out your cannon, vertical and horizontal drive and ammorack you. On top of that your gun depression is shit as well.
Not fast enough. 0.5 seconds isn’t fast enough to disable cannons reliably. Combined with the shitty post pen and surviability you are basically food for abrams and leo2a4s which is 90% of the competition you’re gonna face.
90% of the time you’re gonna be fighting tanks and dying to them.
Begleitpanzers and strf9040s are way better vehicles for their respective brs.