Moving 2s38 to 10.7 is such an atrocious decision

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nope… been ammo racked so many times

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Rarely happens to mine, only cook off, third time I am without any ammo left but vehicle and crew still remain 100% healthy. Die to ATGM from Adats to the turret cheek like once

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ive died to APFSDS to my turret

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The regular PUMA has NO Atgms, at all. None, zero, zilch. And no, it does not have armor. It can be 50cal’d from the entire back and even some areas on the side. And 30mm punches clean through everywhere.

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To then, sit there and do nothing. Because the peashooter is literally incapable of penning most everything unless it’s fully side on to you. And after two hits to the turret you’re usually out of ammo. Oh and any HE to the turret or MUSS cone instantly kills it. Same for many ATGMs. Which you can absolutely and do absolutely meet at that BR.

I’d trade you the PUMA instantly for the 2s38. I doubt you’d do the same. One is massively more played for a reason. And it aint the PUMA.

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PUMA has one of the better protection against autocannons and it can definitely stop some 30mm rounds.

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Just for you to know, the 2S38 gun still don’t overheat…

Which means that you can fire your 148 shells at once

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+the DM is bugged, resulting in 23mm HE dealing fatal pressure damage with just 1 lucky hit if placed correctly on the normal deck

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You are slower and taller than leo2s and abrams so gl with that

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What exactly do you have trouble “believing in”. 2s38 is slower than leo2s and abrams (FACT), which means that you cannot flank, and your survivability is too bad for frontal engagements (3 crew members in front of a carousel of ammo). Your rate of fire is nothing to write home about (0,5s) which means that you cannot disable cannon barrels reliably.

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You can flank but you need to expect that your enemies can get there before you, which puts you at a disadvantage.

Getting in a good hull down position with that gun depression is also a problem. Even if you find something you can get ammo racked or die to overpressure from HE/HEAT.

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Just a reminder that there are 8 Leopard 2a4s in the game which absolutely flood the matchmaker at 10.7

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These are the top 6 most played tanks at 10.7 if you don’t include USSR.

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From 10.3 to 11.0 2S38 is, simply put, plain mediocre at flanking due to it’s limited mobility.

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Yep and he thinks he’s so smart making that “meme” response

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Meanwhile OTOMATIC is at BR 11.3 and is much weaker than 2s38

OTOMATIC:
Disadvantages:

  1. High profile reduces survivability
  2. Ammunition stored anywhere inside the turret and hull; if hit, you will explode, greatly reducing survivability
  3. Can only carry 12 APDFSDS shells, so you are unable to pose a threat

Advantage:

  1. Only good at destroying helicopters

2s38:
Disadvantages:

  1. Nobody

Advantage:

  1. Low profile, high survivability
  2. Amphibious vehicle, high mobility
  3. More Faster than the OTOMATIC
  4. More mobile than the OTOMATIC
  5. Can perform scouting despite being an SPAA, but Gaijin has classified it as a light vehicle to give it this additional bonus
  6. Cannon never overheats, can continue firing indefinitely.
  7. Can target both aircraft and helicopters, as in real life it was designed as an SPAA and in the game it can also perform that role despite being classified as a light vehicle, so the 2s38 can perform scouting.
  8. It can carry 148 APDFSDS. Enemy vehicles that the 2s38 struggles to penetrate with its frontal armour can be easily neutralised by destroying their tracks and gun barrel with extreme simplicity since his cannon can fire continuously without overheating, allowing you to safely flank the enemy and then destroy it.

Now I bet you’ll use the excuse of greater penetration of OTOMATIC shell, despite the OTOMATIC only having 12 APDFSDS rounds, which makes it totally useless in battle.

The truth is that the 2s38 is a “pay to win” vehicle.

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Dude. Just because the otomatic is overtiered garbage doesn’t make the 2s38 any better by proxy. Also nice chatgpt arguments lol.

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My brother in christ you are the one deciding where you go with a vehicle.

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In reality, the 2s38 is better than the OTOMATIC. It is a vehicle that can comfortably stay at BR 11.3 and still perform well. The only reason it isn’t is because of “pay to win”. Also dreams are nice, but they remain dreams. I suggest you come back down to earth and touch the grass. ;)

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perfect explanation, 10/10

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