Moving 2s38 to 10.7 is such an atrocious decision

and how does that differ from any and all other autocanon light tanks at the same BR but with substantially less firepower?

Thats why it should move up and why it probably could move up to 11.0.

If you consider that all of them are glass canons and everything you said is true for them all. What is left?

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Non-existent surivability, appallingly bad mobility (for a light tank), slow rate of fire and weak post pen. Your reload rate is too slow to disable cannons and your post pen is too weak to kill in 1 shot.

You simply do not have the time to sit there and aim and spam weakspots meanwhile everyone else just has to hover their mouse over you and you’re dead. And you don’t have the mobility to flank. Nor small size to play like a rat.

Reload rate is irrelevant if you’re gonna die in the 1st shot exchange (which you will).

Like I said… and yes it has to do with survivability. Huge size, ammorack and 3 leg touching crew members. You simply cannot tank a shot in this thing.

Lol. I have reached rank 8 in US, Germany, Russia, Sweden, Japan and rank 7 with UK and Italy. But go ahead, call me however you want, whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Why is the concept of mobility so hilarious to you? Look up my stats if it’s so beyond your comprehension.

Nice cherry picking.

Pen is irrelevant, you still have to aim for weakspots.

irrelevant, again

I already explained how that doesn’t mean anything. Why are you so stubborn? Do you even read what I’m writing?

Still has way higher chance of survival than the 2s38 lol

Yes. You got one thing right. It’s slower but can eat a shot if you’re lucky.

Better survivability, gun depression and most importantly way higher rate of fire. You can actually disable cannon barrels with this tank.

How does that differ from any other AFV?

Its not

Its average, but has the advantage of an unlimited ready rack, no reload like other light tanks.

Post pen damage is directly porportional to pen. A round with higher pen will usually always have better post pen damage.

Its not

So why have i been one shotted loads of time?

Then can all other AFV/IFVs that have the exact same problems get 220mm pen rounds and unlimited ready racks?

Because the 2S38 is faster than most MBTs and light tanks :D

You picked the cherry

how is it not relevant?

A remote turret still means a smaller target in hulldown, given the BR, you will mostly face tanks with no TVD or only Gen 1 TVD. spotting a hulldown 2S38 turret is extremely hard. This gives a significant advantage at times. 2S38 is a monster in hulldown and more powerful in open ground than most light tanks due to its increased firepower.

How?

So can the 2S38 though?

How?

3 degree difference

for 24 rounds, then substantially slower.

and you can with the 2S38. Stop pretending you cant.

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As you have switched to insulting me I will assume you have no counter agument and have therefore agreed with my point that hte 2S38 deserves to be at 10.7 or 11.0 and you like many others, just want to keep OP premiums at low BRs where they can continue to cause problems

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Don’t bother.

lol if you think these vehicles you mentioned ruin their respective BRs, you are delusional

Why are people with less than 50% winrate allowed to speak on this forum

with this opinion, i think you shouldnt be able to speak here lol

In a game that the company launches a BMPT, for example, and totally ruin a BR, how on earth do you think like that?

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I’m talking about general winrate, not certain BR, if you have less than 50% total winrate you are an active detriment to your team

I mostly play 9.7 to 10.7. because there is the vehicles i like. I wouldnt get surprised if my WR is under 40% and i dont care at all

Morvan, are you doing that thing where you comment about balance for a vehicle you’ve never used?

@Tank_Guy
You responded to the wrong posts.
Your inappropriate and off-topic posts do not have anything to do with what my posts said.

Me: “Nothing in this topic ruins BRs.”
Also me: “Things are only OP if they’re more powerful than competitors for their BR.”

And why am I not allowed to comment on a barring OP vehicle being under BRed?

I have to sit there in a 9.3 getting destroyed every game by OP soviet 10.3 vehicles but am not allowed to comment because I’ve not played them?

You haven’t used it so you can’t say whether it is OP or not. End of discussion, really.

The Golden Lineup of 10.3 in shambles.

Good.

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It’s not the end of the world 2s38 will be fine you’ll still get to shoot up 9.7 vehicles……

That is the single most stupid argument I have ever seen

If that is the case, I think the Ajax should be 9.3 because it wouldnt be OP. You are not allowed to comment because you’ve not played it.

See, totally stupid argument

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8.3 it has people in the turret so will be nowhere near as op as the puma was….

Yep, this is true, its also huge and quite slow

Yep definitely 8.3 material for the Ajax has a terrible win rate too definitely needs to go down and those terrible optics x6 that’s medieval

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