Yeah that’s pretty much it, having used the Wyvern i confirm.
Is a really good strike fighter because of the 3 x1000lb bombs and speed (at low altitude), but once you get dive on by one guy he will catch you most of the times (unless you dive hard and are almost borderline wing ripping speeds).
The Hispanos on the other hand… they are “****Spanos” and barely do any damage. Damage model is mediocre, you will get on fire quicker than any other japanese prop for some reason.
For Air RB i would remove it’s air spawn, since that’s what i would actually legit say is an overpowered advantage, but increasing it’s BR? that would be an unjustified huge nerf.
The Wyvern is only amazing if you don’t own it. Like most Premiums.
Bit of a brick to be honest. Hard to drop bombs with any accuracy at that speed.
Can have some good games with it but it’s not guaranteed, it won’t take hits well. Certainly no P47 in that department.
If players are getting results with it at 4.3 then they deserve it as 4.3 UK is a pretty miserable place to be compared with Russia/Germany or USA.
wyvern is a CAS aircraft.it already has too much air combat capability now.
why it’s at 4.3 currently? because so many Russian and Chinese idiots use it to bomb only. Right now, during events, I always see more that 8 wyverns in a single match. And this is why. It’s also the reason why this disgusting monster should be moved to 5.3(with better flight performance, of course)
i complained about this on the subreddit and got downvoted to oblivion by all the wyvern users i posted that during the last event too so it was even more used than normally
hispano do no damage? you don’t really play ARB recently, do you?
wyvern S4 has biased acceleration, biased top speed as well as biased firepower. to make it not so broken it has to be moved to 5.0 as well as removing air spawn.
plus, you talked about wyvern being dived on. the problem here is all other strike aircraft and literally all bombers can be caught by a fighter and this doesn’t need the fighter to dive. in the meantime, it is often the case that a fighter can’t catch wyvern unless he dives all the way from 3000m alt. plus we have japs and Soviet fighters that can’t even reach wyvern (or it’s your skill issue), due to Soviet rip speed and jap engine. till now, the best wyvern hunter I have flied is P-47D28, which is a 5.0 fighter. Oh by the way. even if wyvern S4’s air spawn is removed, it can still climb faster than many 5.3 fighters. This is ridiculous. Stop defending for a such biased and broken vehicle.
F-104 is virtually an F-22 at 9.3. Nothing at that BR can catch it. It has made playing 8.3-9.0 hell. Only the stupid will try to turn fight in one of those. Anyone with even one braincell will just run away then come back in when you stop chasing. Everyone else’s F-104s are at 10.0. Why are American F-104s at 9.3? They can go to 9.7 at least.
Remove the XP-50’s air start and you remove the one thing it has going for it. The Wyvern can go to 6.0 hell.
Wyvern definitely could be higher, but so could most of the US tree since they have the issue of high population/use dunking stats (aka Wyvern issue as was 4.7 when I started).
5.0+ though… Nightmare fuel of matches of Ju288 and Wyverns spammed to oblivion. Yeah, it might seem funny but the current Ju288 matches are NOT (on the whole), and not every Ju288 or Wyvern is just a bot/blind grinder and real users of vehicles should not be hamstrung too much (Say that mostly these users ended up on same 6 v 6 battles or whatever, which are not ideal (but better than the 16 v 16 moron-fuel)).
But hey, most vehicles are where they are due to “average” use so just a big flaw in the system when vehicles or nations are more popular than others.
Next “BR Update” people could help by supporting those asking for a BR raise on the Wyvern, I have been one of the very few for YEARS. No counters to the idea, just no support either. Got it to 4.3 so far so it is a start (not me personally off course and I am sure more a stats thing than community action).
6.0 Wyvern hell = more Ju288 hell = Hell for EVERYONE in those 6 v 6s. Not a NO but a “be careful what you wish for”… cough ATGMS… cough Helicopters… cough Modern vehicles in a WWII geared sandbox.
i still remember chasing a wyvern all the way to the edge of the map to shoot it down the only reason i managed to do it is because the game repsawned him in front of the map border
It already has changed. From 4.7 down to 4.0 now to 4.3. It is not the Premium status but all the base bombing players that dunk the stats.
We already have oversaturated areas of the game by players going for specific nations/vehicles which unfairly reduces BRs for vehicles and in some cases entire nations. Wyvern is UK so gets noticed is all.
This is just a symptom of player performance BRs, but there is not a huge amount that can be done.
Just thank those one or two people asking for its raise every BR update time (you’re welcome).
Actually - i expect next round a downtier back to 4.0.
Why? Despite every player with some brain cells has realized that on certain maps the aaa defending the 4 mini-bases is as deadly as af aaa, i see every 2nd match 2-4 guys (ofc mostly Wyverns) got sniped ~2-3 km away from the bases…
Wyvern doesnt need to go anywhere, Instead it just needs air spawn removed. Thats the only OP thing about it. Might need a forward AF spawn (maybe). But it would be absolutely fine at 4.3 without air spawn.
If after that it needs to move up, then at most 4.7. Its an ideal aircraft for Naval and Britain has a strong line up of 4.7 Destroyers. The Wyvern is a good aircraft to compliment that line-up (and that is my only use for the aircraft currently)
That would be much worse because then more wyvern players would be going in the anti-fighter role, where it becomes an early-game menace.
Letting it be closer to its team early-game also gives you less time to deal with it since the enemy team will be on you in a minute if you turn to engage.
Avg Turboshaft/Prop issue. It’s too good, it matches against the J-21A-3, with 1 20mm, and 3 13mm’s, lower load, lower speed, arguably better firepower.
Which is what players should be doing with it anyway, in my mind (and so would probably improve the statistics and so get the eventual BR increase).
That is almost exactly how I used the Do 355 B2, to go for bombers (who had very little chance if you get near) or early game ticket bleed reduction by taking out all the AI air (both gave very good returns on progress for a fair amount of PvE before the fighters hit, whereby run or give into the headon; 30mm heaven).
The Wyvern of course gets the advantage of too low a BR due to the bomb the base crew (such a waste!).
So in theory an Interceptor type spawn might change habits, habits which show the true performance of the aircraft. If they can’t almost always get that free base kill points then people trying to use it properly might prevail = BR raise with performance.
A raise in BR won’t stop the irritating spam, hampering of the more passive use off the aircraft might? Nightmare fuel would be 6 v 6s or even standard matches with LOTS of Ju-288s and Wyverns most matches as people try to rack up SL (If they meet in BRs aka Wyvern at 5.0)
