Move up the PzH2000 already

It is not, maybe simple rangefinder but not laser

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HE is the worst round at 7.7, it’s the easiest to screw up, it’s useless in all but roof shots.

I’ve still fragged more HE slingers than have died to above my average KDR.
They’re easy to avoid, and easy to hit cause they’re the size of… a Maus.

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No its not, even top tier mbts get one shotted with he which is hilarious tbh. If you’re looking for worst round at 7.7 you should look at magach 1 apcr round

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Go ahead, use them yourself.
And APCR is easier to use than HE. Visualizing ammo is far easier than waiting for a roof shot hoping you’re not seen before that opportunity arrives.

SEND THESE DIVIOUS CREATURES TO 12.0

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So a T32E1 would be easier to play, aight my bad, keep those boxes at 7.7 and move the T32E1 at 8.0 because it has APCR and it’s easier to use than HE

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Why? They’re insanely easy to kill. Unarmored, slow traverse, and a massive ammo rack directly n the middle of the hull. And if you can’t hit the ammo, it’s super easy to just shoot the turret crew.

Imagine thinking lack of armor is a downside, it’s what makes those demonic boxes unkillable because shells overpenetrate and cause 0 spalling, Bri’ish and US solid sh*t shells are especially bad when dealing with these creatures

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Light tanks have been in game for many years now, everyone has had time to learn how to deal with them with solid shot or APDS. That’s on you if you haven’t.

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If you’re gonna call skill issue on me them i’m gonna double it and say you lack it severely ,if you think shooting a compact car with 3 crew members is the same as shooting one of those creatures that have the empty space inside them the size of an Weasel plus 5 crew members

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Shooting the wrong side of the turret and only taking out the loader is a skill issue on your part, it’s almost physically impossible to not take out the gunner without also hitting the FCS and making the gun unusable.

There’s pretty much nowhere in the tank where hitting it won’t essentially kill it (maybe not in one hit, but allowing you to get multiple after it gets disabled) besides the engine block.

Cope

(Infantrikanonvagn 91 appears)

Yeah. I think the PZH 2000 should be fine at 8.0, with the VIDAR maybe going to 8.3.

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where ever you put them they will perform the same every 12.0 game there are at least 2 of them
farming “skill matters”

True, though you have to take into account responsiveness of vehicles too.
Leopard I, for instance, is way less responsive to incoming threats than a Leopard A1A1.
It’s much easier to shoot a PZH when you have a stabilizer, LRF, and 24 degrees per second turret rotation speed, than not.

That’s why it’s generally easier for SPAA (like the Falcon) to clap 7.0-8.0 light tanks than clapping 8.3-9.0 light tanks, and why light tanks at top tier are generally inferior in most cases to MBTs (other than in an extremely successful flank). Just that the difference in responsiveness (mobility + versatility + gun handling) between low tier lights vs low tier mediums / heavies is far greater than the responsiveness between top tier lights vs top tier heavies / MBTs.

I can see Type 90s ending up in the same spot as CV90120s , for example.
I probably won’t see a Tiger II (H) end up in the same spot as an M18 hellcat, as another example.

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I can agree with the PzH getting a slight BR increase, especially if it receives its missing features especially its SAP. But I don’t understand the hate for these vehicles (and seemingly not the PZL05?). No stabilizer, huge target, no armour. Sure, LRF, but that’s why these vehicles are ~0.7 above otherwise essentially identical counterparts, let alone ~2.0 above the most basic counterparts which still perform essentially the same role at mostly the same efficacy!
And it’s not even like LRF is some super-weapon. There are of course the famous examples of the Ikv-91, Type 69, and ZTZ59A, but at 8.3 and 8.7 LRF becomes increasingly common and by 9.0, where you’d have the Vidar, essentially every vehicle has LRF with the notable exception of the poor A1A1. And unlike the Vidar these vehicles aren’t limited to HE from an unstabilized cannon mounted on a tank with maximum 40mm armour.
And that’s not even getting into ATGM vehicles, generally superior snipers.

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Let me introduce to you our Lord and Savior, the 5 holy HE! (Or HESH or HEAT or HEAT-FS, whatever tickles your fancy)
If you’re complaining about killing a tank with essentially no armour and are only packing solid shot that’s 100% a skill issue.

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They’re annoying to face, and they often have unique features that other tanks don’t/rarely have. For example, the Vidar has an LRF, the Pzh2000 has a very fast reload, the PZL05 has spall liners and others are at lower BRs.

They simply just one shot everything, and make armour useless. Other high penetrating tanks often have terrible post pen damage, while HE just instantly kills you, and they make playing a lot of the iconic WWII tanks way worse because the older tanks can’t do much against them. Artillery tanks can also perform much better in uptiers because their gun will never be bad.

They’re also incredibly common (except the PZL05), which increases the amount of dislike towards them.

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I think wait another year until it got change because gaijin wouldnt change a vehicle BR when it was only release like a year ago