dont shoot the ERA
If there’s no pay-to-win system in this game, how will Gaijin survive? Gaijin’s system is worse than normal pay-to-win games, but the main reason the T-80UD got nerfed is to increase sales of the BMPT-72 and T-72 Arena. If you didn’t like pay-to-win, you shouldn’t have bought the T-80UD then.
im sure they do just fine with 80 dollar packs
I’ve no idea what you’re trying to say here mate
In referal to this nonsense.
1 use the camera properly. you do not use 0 meter distance.
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T90A has the same composite array found at 10.3 on the T72B @AlvisWisla can tell you, hell show you that if you’d like.
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The T80UD has a smaller profile, more effective ERA placement of ERA as well as shape of the panels especially on it’s flanks.
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T80UD reloads faster, they have the same exact optics bar T90 has thermals.
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T80UD also has whole second faster reload which is massive at these BRs
I’ll always pick fire rate over thermals. hell I’m loving the 80UM2 at 11.7 with no thermals lol
It literally does? it’s a premium witha faster fire rate, the same mobility, comparable armour.
Can have payments in it without being P2W.
they’ve managed for years with no P2W there was no need for it now.
No the main and only reason for it’s BR to be changed was due to it’s performance, they literally have stated as @MotorolaCRO can tell you, that vehicles BRs are based on their performance in matches E.G how much earnings they have.
I got the T80UD and used it exclusively at 10.7. it was still strong as hell. T
The only reason it’s not 11.0 Right now is because it’s a premium and is played in droves by folks who dont know how to use a T80
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if it had those it would be 11.0
Hmmm a 11.0 MBT is better than a 10.7 MBT, what an absolutely shocking revelation. How can I recover from this shattering news? (wait until bro finds out about the T-80UD/BE)
The T-80UD is a perfect sidegrade to the Bishma, which fits perfectly at 10.7. The Bishma has slightly better turret armor (minimal difference though) and Gen2 gunner thermals while the T-80UD has a faster reload.
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Keep the current pay to progress formula, sell skins, sell premium vehicles that are just reskins of TT ones but offer economical benefits.
Theres no need to have any pay to win aspects for WT to sruvive.
In fact id argue that no pay to win aspects make people invest into the game more lol so continuing with expanding on the pay to win aspect of the game will only damage them in a long run.
T-72 Arena is event tank and its free for anyone who grinded the event.
BMPT-72 released at 10.3, and fills out entirely different niche to T-80UD. It was clearly meant to complement T-80UD in the lineup. Also they are monetized differently, T-80UD was GE premium from the start, whereas BMPT-72 is pack premium.
Slight difference as usually old pack premiums are replaced by new ones, which didnt happen here.
wtf are you even saying here lmao, i geniunely dont understand.
it has 4km/h reverse speed, what faster reverse are u talking about?
if u don’t know how to kill a russian tank, yes it is.
9.3 Leopard 1A5 which has TVD. T-80UD doesn’t and now it’s at 10.7 against Leopard 2A4 with 2nd Gen thermals.
ERA rarely stops APFSDS, pretty sure ur APFSDS doesn’t get absolutely absorbed by K-5 that often.
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it’s ERA, it’s literally made to stop HEAT, and ATGMs are just propelled HEAT rounds. skill issue if u don’t aim for the weakspots or destroy it’s cannon to nulify it’s possibility of counterattacking.
now T-80UD is 10.7, which imo is pretty unfair since it’s literally just a 10.3 T-72 with better reload and mobility AND without thermals which basically all 10.7 tanks have, and i always say: if u only complain about a single vehicle at a specific BR when there’s many other similar vehicles at the same BR, then u rather have a skill issue or a problem against the players of that nation in particular.
T-72B (1989) has the same ERA, same top speed/reverse speed, slightly worse engine, slightly worse reload…all that at the same 10.3 BR as the old T-80UD (and plus it has better armor since T-72s were made to have armor while T-80s were made to have mobility, that’s why they’re very agile), and if u only complain about the 80UD then i don’t understand what the T-72B (1989) lacks that u don’t complain about it.
Tier 1 Thermals are, bad. Really bad. As in nigh unuseably bad. Their resolution is so horrendous especially at range.
When you say era rarely stops apfsds do you mean kontact 1? Because im sorry but relikt over performs like shit still due to the buggyness of the game. Even kontact 1/5 to a certain extent as ive had low calibre apfsds just be eaten by them while shooting the sides of mbts. Theyll either eat all the damage and cause the round to create no spall or stop the round outright while not even detonating and just going yellow… Although this may be more due to gaijins lazy method at calculating apfsds rounds bellow 76mm.
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500x300 resolution
Since when 500x300 is second gen?
K5 and relict does. Thats their key difference from earlier era like k1.
Emphasizing on 500x300 thermals of 10.7 seems to be bigger skill issue to me. Or vision issue lol.
Does it have same amount of era on sides? That does matter against autocannons and side shots at extreme angles.
21.7 hpt vs 18.9 hpt
7 second isnt “slightly worse” mate. Its worst reload speed at toptier while 6s is at least equal to leo 2 aces and faster than chinese autoloaders.
You do know that U modification comes with much better protection compared to earlier t series? Thats one of reasons why soviets developed it. You can compare them in prot analysis instead of “t72 armor t80 speed”.
I think t80ud being better than its counterpart in every way makes t80ud br more than justified.
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T72B 1989 has
- worse armour
- far worse mobility
- 1 second slower reload.
- far far worse optics.
He’s not comparing their armour at all lol
Havent seen people mentioning ammo placement. Its located higher on 64/80s which reduces ammo rack chance for lfp shots
there’s an extra improvement, though I’ve not really noticed that much myself.
maybe why somtimes I’ve hit the driver, auto loader then the engine
T-80UD doesn’t use Relikt.
it’s TVD whatsoever, T-80UD doesn’t even have 1st Gen thermals at 10.7, while T-80B has at the same BR (honestly i dunno why T-72 has K-5 at 10.3 but T-80 doesn’t at 10.7).
10.7 tanks don’t have 2nd Gen thermals?
happened to me once in the T-72B3 “Arena” and never in the T-80UD. imo skill issue, it can’t happen THAT often.
say that till u face forest maps with huge density of trees and bushes and u can’t see a sh*t cuz a bush is thicker than a concrete wall.
idk why u should worry about that but yes both have the same amount of ERA on sides.
that is not top speed, that’s hp/t ratio which affects acceleration and turning, not stop speed.
slightly worse compared to the 6secs reload of the T-80, basically u’re exchanging reload for lower BR.
both have the exact same armor from pure steel to ERA, with the T-72B (1989) having 2 pieces of ERA less than the T-80UD in the turret.
after hearing Leopard 2A4 doesn’t have 2nd Gen Thermals i could change my opinion, but i still feel it lacks things for 10.7.
always thought 10.7 tanks had 2nd Gen thermals cuz 9.0/9.3 ones (Leopard 1A5/M60A3 TTS) had 1st Gen thermals.
TANDEM missile exists…