The Sagittario 2 can’t compete with 10.3 missles while having no flears. You cant really do anything other than die
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The sagatorrio and ariete are seen as 9.3 because they can pretty much out fight anything at its br bracket and above, and below.
Its prob the best rate fighter in the game and has nuclear canons, its more of a gimmic plane than an inline one, plus it shouldnt be fighting me262 and poor tu4
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Honestly it really can. 10.3 missiles are still 20g rear aspect for the most part. And the saggitario has ridiculous enough of a flight model that lining up a shot with said missiles is fairly hard if the pilot is half aware of people beinf behind them.
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No. Compression. Next!
Plus it should be the last one of the kind to be considered problematic in a 9g9j msl meta
Plus it’s first flight is later than the F8 lmao
It has a 1.04 KDR, its perfectly balanced as is, as much as it pains me to say but the Ariete could be 9.7 TBH, it has a 1.85 KDR, the highest of Rank 6 and above jets.
Saggitario 2 is one of the best dogfighters around that BR. It can only lose to Mig-19 doing an energy fight.
And 9.3 is still the dogfighting BR.
You’re right, it should be reduced in BR. It’s a subsonic fighter, with decent acceleration, no flare, no missiles… It makes absolutely no sense for the Sagittario 2 to have the same BR as the Ariete. The Sagittario 2 already seemed too limited at 9.0, and raising it to 9.3 has only made it more frustrating to play. This puts the Sagittario 2 on the same BR level as the F-5C, MiG-21SMT and F-8E.
The treatment of the most manoeuvrable fighters in this game is ridiculous. Especially when the enemy has the brain of a monkey and gets beaten in a stupid way. Gaijin has a bad habit of letting the worst players determine the “efficiency” of an aircraft.
However, you are not the first to ask for this aircraft to be lowered. Over time, several posts have been created asking for a reduction in the BR of the Sagittario 2, all of which have been ignored. Here is an example:
They will never ask for it to be lowered. As you have seen, there are too many players who hate it because they cannot hit it with missiles and want to get an easy win.
What you need to ask for is to increase the BR of all aircraft above BR 9.7 by further decompressing high BRs. This solves the problem and would piss off all the incompetent players.
Isn’t that just a TT version of the Ariete?
That thing is insane with it energy retention, it can zoom climb something like 6km at 90*
The Ariete should go to 9.7 before the Sagittario goes to 9.0, because they are objectively better than every other 9.0, and their BR needs to reflect that.
Those aren’t 9.3/9.7 planes.
The Ariete/Sagittario can not die to almost every missile, and can’t die to guns unless the pilot messes up.
I agree, but thinking that the Ariete won’t go up if 9.3 is decompressed is shortsighted.
On a side note, both of them are hideously OP in air sim, to the point where a match is unplayable if they exist. They are quite literally 9.3 level planes at 8.0/9.0 in air sim.
It has slightly less thrust, but is lighter iirc. It’s worse, but not by a large margin.
It’s the best subsonic dogfighter in the entire game by a significant margin.
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Ariete is an evolution of the Sagittario 2. It has been fitted with 2 engines, while the Sagittario 2 has only 1, which translates into greater speed and greater maneuverability for the Ariete.
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Ah, OK, it would have to be quite a bit worse to justify going down. Ariete is only as low as it is due to compression.
It is obvious that the player in the main post is referring to “Realistic Battles” and not “Simulation” battles, so your comment is literally pointless.
If you want, you can talk about “realistic battles”, bearing in mind that you’ll encounter a completely different type of enemy in the match, since BR changes drastically from “Realistic Battles” to “Simulation” mode.
EDIT: Corrected typo.