I don’t understand how it is fair for the F-4EJ to fight far superior aircraft at and around its battle rating. For example, the MIG-25PD can lock and launch from distances further than visual range and frequently hit and destroy targets whilst the phantom’s rwr cannot detect the mig radar at all and cannot launch on it until at 7-8km flying at mach. You also encounter the same issues in uptiers, which at the moment are quite frequent, as the F-4EJ’s main rivals ingame (those being the mig-23m and f-4e both out dogfight and keep superior features and superior weapons.
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why should you be able to sparrow flareless or chaffless jets at 9.7 then? they have no counterplay against the F-4EJ
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Just calmly compare the F-4E and the F-4EJ. The missile kit is roughly equivalent (7E-2 is slightly better than the 7E, but the 9P is slightly better than the 9J), and the F-4E gets a slightly better flight model due to the slats. A 0.3 BR jump between the two is obviously fair.
It seems you’re a tad frustrated with MiG-25s. The MiG-25PD is the single best BVR aircraft at 11.0 by a no contest margin. Do not get into high altitude BVR fights with it, you will lose. The F-4EJ is vastly superior close up, so the next time you see one, force the close up fight.
F-4EJ is good where it is (talks someone who has several hundred battles in it).
MiG-25PD is nuissance only at altitudes, otherwise it is niche. F-4E is 0.3 BR higher and has a much funnier time dealing with 12.x planes (not like EJ doesn’t face hordes of F-4S, but still). MiG-23MLs are a problem that cannot be solved easily either since moving it to 12.0 would question the BR of the superior F-4S, and therefore the whole BR range.
The only way to deal with such stuff – decompression. Because if you are lucky enough to get a 10.0-10.3 lobby you are basically the king of the skies (as long as you know the specifics of your radar and its missiles effectively)