i find it weird why the churchill avre is at br 2.7. it has more armor even at the rear of its turrets than russian 45mm cannons have in penetration. hell, even the t-28E hasnt got the pen to properly deal with this tank. its massively undertiered. same as when we look at similar vehicles. the panzer 3 50mm, already drops to same pen as rear turret armor value at only 100 meters.
i believe this tank should be br 3.3 at best, where its more commonly fighting vehicles that are actually able to penetrate its armor.
just to iterate. yes, it has a very limited use cannon, but thats no excuse for fighting vehicles that are incapable of penetratings its armor, even at their best. you give users of this churchill avre such an incredible unfair advantage by letting it fight tanks that literally cannot penetrate its armor.
If you look at one stat of a tank, you’re probably going to think it’s strong for it’s BR.
Churchill AVRE is possibly the worst tank in the entire game, the round is almost unusable. ~110m MAX range means you straight up can’t engage the many targets, not to mention the long reload OR the terrible forward and reverse mobility.
and that is the difference. those same td’s are at a battlerating where they arnt allowed complete invulnerability. despite having a gun that can penetrate this churchill avre, they themselves are either lightly armored, or having easily accessable sides that are weaker armored, weak enough for every tank that they can come across in their battlerating. the su-122, despite having such a strong frontal armor, its sides are just as thick, but flat as a penny. even a french 47mm can go through that at reasonable ranges.
the churchill avre is a 4.0 tank, disguised as a 2.7 battlerating. as i said, its limited use gun should not be a reason for allowing such an invulnerable tank at that low of a battlerating.
As an AVRE enjoyer, shoot the barrel. If there is a round there and you hit it, it explodes, instantly killing the vehicle. If there’s not, you break the barrel and the long reload time gets even longer, giving you time to run away if you can’t do anything else.
not exactly sure what you are thinking there. please try to read what i typed here, however hard as it may be.
im advocating for this tank not to be inside the regular matchmaking with tanks that are unable to pen it in any capacity. like the russian 45mm, or german 50mm.
Do you own the tank? If you do you probably know how unreliable is the weapon despite having 17kg of TNT is the slowest round fired in the game in one of the slowest platform at its BR range.
You can pretty easily aim its exposed ammo in the launcher and destroy the vehicle completely or just shoot the launcher, disable it and shoot the turret roof which in most Churchill tanks is a common weak spot, depending on the ammunition you’re carrying you can also overpressure it.
You might gain any traction in a topic like this if you were complaining about a tank that was actually strong or unbalanced. AVRE is not. Nearly all maps in WT are fought at >100m, rendering it useless in even the average scenario.
do you understand what im saying here? the russian 45mm has only 70mm of pen, at best. at its weakest, the sides of the churchill avre are 63mm thick. thats the thinnest armor there can be found. and you need to be exactly next to him, because at 10 meters, you already got only 67mm of pen.
on top of that, he has 20mm of tracklinks covering the entire tank, which add another 10mm to penetration equivalent.
Other than the fact it has a range of 130m and a shell that travels at 50 m/s and then a very long reload. Pro tip you are safe from it outside of 130m, You can shoot the gun and detonate the ammo…
If you cant kill what is regarded as one of the worse tanks in WT then the issue isn’t the AVRE or the game…
Its the fleshy thing between your chair and keyboard…