it’s still an F-15, meaning it will be an easy kill for pretty much every AA system at top tier once it gets in range. And since the GBU-53 will likely also have a mach 1 drop speed limit, it will have to get within range of said AA systems.
I haven’t seen the F-15I make any significant difference for Israel in GRB after the buffs.
Can’t wait for this to be better than the spike just like how LMUR is better.
Eventually I still want a lot of older MBT’s to show up like some of the unique armored one on Germany and some more just niche models for some other nations like some subtree additions, I don’t think every nation should get a new tank but I wouldn’t be against older/lower BR tanks being added to nation.
Personally I’m looking to eventually one day seeing the 2A5DK
A non-top tier MBT update would be cool. Fill out 8.0 to 11.0 with more tanks, away from all the broken CAS and drones. Make a larger split between un-stabilised and stabilised tanks, with more single-plane stabilised tanks in the middle.
It’s real, but yeah since the picture’s kinda polished and the tank looks kinda weird it does have that AI aesthetic to it.
Along with all the other suggestions, the M1 CATTB is something I would also really like to see in game, like an American Obj 292, just better.
You’re right we need an AI vehicle focuses update
Honestly you can hang this thread up, we wont see more advances in mbts until russia gets something new. Lets be real here, if the current 3BM60 can’t pen more than 50% of a NATOs front then they arent gonna add it.
We most likely will get the new T90M2 before we ever get the the korean K2, Leo 2A8, M1A2 SEPV3/V4 (yes a few were made for testing), or anyother modern mbt.
Lets be honest here the bias is strong with gajin the past two updates with the new pantsir and BMPT
I mean sure add the armata, it has little to zero turret armor and the same lower front plate weakness as the other T-Series tanks
I don’t believe the lower front plate weakness is really a problem for this vehicle, its crew is protected by a heavily armored crew capsule. As for the turret it’s protected by Afganit, same for the whole vehicle itself.
It all comes down to how the developers want to implement it and how they’ll handle ammo detonations for this style of vehicle.
It’s crew is not gonna survive a sabo just cause their in a “heavily armored crew capsule”
The frontal layout is estimated around 1,000mm. It’s like a sandwich of materials, you got the new Monolit ERA and 44S-sv-Sh ultra-high hardness steel alloy combined with ceramic and polymer layers, there’s also air gaps that help with heat and what not.
In front of all that you have the APS that can degrade sabots.
Source: “Trust me bro”
We’re talking about lower front plate bro, no one ever shoots ufp on a t90m or t80bvm, same would go for this
Sounds fancy ≠ good,
It can actually be worse against KE as it can become brittle.
Ceramics and polymers are not new tech, been around since the cold war. Nothing special here.
To start who actually uses heat in top tier?? That’s just solving a non existent problem :)
And “air gaps” does not do anything against apfsds, bad argument…
You’re stacking normal composite armor, ERA, and APS and pretending they multiply into 1000 mm vs KE. They don’t. Air gaps and ERA mainly help vs HEAT, not sabot, and APS isn’t proven to stop APFSDS at all. Your entire argument is mixing different protection types and applying them to the wrong threats.
It’s easy to say stuff on the internet, but when you don’t have proof for your argument’s they fall flat.
Here are examples of APS working:
Not against sabo but working, i mean there’s no proof of the afghanit aps actually working only simulations have been shown which prove nothing
Unless they suddenly add 3 or 4 maps bigger than 1km overnight, I’m not interested in more top tier MBTs. There isn’t enough room for a lot of them to actually flex their abilities, and top tier is stuffed full of problems right now because of map sizes. The tanks are so fast that a not insignificant number of matches end in spawn camping after one side loses their first spawn tanks, helicopters are instantly detected and launched on by SPAA when they take off, and the same thing happens when you take off from the runway with planes, let alone use the air spawn.
Strange, then why are they prioritizing building other mbts and not producing these super amazing mbts? They’ve even stopped producing hulls for them giving up on them almost entirely almost exclusively producing only t90m/t90m2 or in a smaller amount t80bvm. I mean cant really blame cost when even an m1a2 costs 12-15 million USD to produce when a single t14 can cost 5-9 million USD.
They’re expensive and it’s cost effective just upgrade older vehicles.
It’s just the manufacturers claim just like anything else for this vehicle “900-1000mm”
Side note we can get a decent idea how this vehicle will be implemented if you check out MWT which has the strong frontal composite armor and a few other features I didn’t mention.
Yeah the good ole “cost effective” excuse. When even the most expensive Russian tank is still cheaper than most NATO IFV’s.
It’s the usual argument because it’s just the truth, this is a logistical choice and a way to get around current bottlenecks. Also capacity, they can pump out far greater numbers.
You can currently see some of this with any other country, logically you’d go with the cheapest option in this case.
Yes, but your thinking of the modernization of T64s, T72s, and T80s. Production stopped on all those mbts with T80s stopping around 2017. T14s were the only models besides T90s being produced. T14 production has (rumored) to have been completely halted with no plans to start the production back.
The T90M2 is further proof of this fact due to it having the same transmission(Gearbox) as the T14. Not only that the cost issue is not an excuse when a T90M costs almost the same amount. Lets be real the T14 is cool and definitely deserves a spot, but it was a failed experiment being too advanced for the Russian military industrial complex to produce.
The Armata was created for War Thunder.
All jokes aside I’m not sure, it may just be an experiment like you said or maybe they still plan to do something more with them, there’s just no way for anyone to know but speculate.