Mitsubishi F-4EJ Kai

[Cpt_Bel_V]

@Youka_Saryn

and AAM-4 and AAM-5’s.

Source?

@Youka_Saryn

AIM-7M’s

Are as good than AIM-7F’s, In game wise.

@Youka_Saryn

AAM-3

There is photos about that loadout, but apart bumping the aircraft up in BR, and without HMD, the AAM-3 is still very limited due to the F-4EJ Kai turn capabilties.

Even the current early F-15J having them have trouble using them in dogfight,… for the exact same reason.

@Youka_Saryn

it’s still capable of doing well in medium range engagements

Play it today, go get yourself against the current 13.3(12.3+1.0),… you’ll have some trouble against AV-8B AIM-120A.

But AV-8B can be beaten close range,…
If the F-4EJ Kai recieves AAM-3 → 12.7 BR, also means constant uptier against much more capable aicrafts (Mirage 2000-5F, F-15C,… and other Fox-3 slingers)

The aircraft then will have no chance.

[MAUSWAFFE]

@Cpt_Bel_V

Are as good than AIM-7F’s, In game wise.

Honestly would make for better stock grind. Currently ahistorical AIM-7E are roadblocking the 7Fs

Having 7F → 7M instead (while arguably redundant) would allow for getting superior missiles earlier.

[AlvisWisla]

And those air to air missiles would make it 13.0.
AAM-5s would make it 14.x.

And AAM-4s can’t be used.

[MAUSWAFFE]

@AlvisWisla

And those air to air missiles would make it 13.0.
AAM-5s would make it 14.x.

AAM-5s weren’t used on any EJ Kai as far as I’m aware, so they are not an issue.

@AlvisWisla

And AAM-4s can’t be used.

AAM-4 have been tested using ADTW F-4EJ Kai aircraft.

Mitsubishi F-4EJ Kai ADTW - The Super Kai Phantom

poll Mitsubishi F-4EJ Kai ADTW - The Super Kai Phantom [grafik] Hi and welcome to my 60st, which is about the F-4EJ Kai ADTW, and I honestly have to admit that I just find the state of the F-4EJ Kai in the game really sad, there are a quite some things missing and even the X-Ray model of the radar is (was for a long time) wrong, with that being said, I hope you like my idea to introduce new and better TT variant, which fits the high BRs a lot better than the current and hopefully wouldn’t lac…

[Kagari_Ray]

I play the EJ Kai almost daily, against current 13.3 it’s actually performing smoothly, idk maybe its just a skill issue on your side

and i played against 13.7 before (did a funny) had literally 0 issues it was just another day another air rb match

also laughs in pulling 16G’s in the ej kai

[Youka_Saryn]

@Cpt_Bel_V

Source?

@Cpt_Bel_V

Play it today, go get yourself against the current 13.3(12.3+1.0),… you’ll have some trouble against AV-8B AIM-120A.

But AV-8B can be beaten close range,…
If the F-4EJ Kai recieves AAM-3 → 12.7 BR, also means constant uptier against much more capable aicrafts (Mirage 2000-5F, F-15C,… and other Fox-3 slingers)

- YouTube

I have done it before I’ll do it again if needed

[skultew1234]

@Youka_Saryn

But it is only seeker pod which simulated AAM-5 seeker but it is not the AAM-5 missile.

@Youka_Saryn

The problem is that there is no photo to approve it. Also it is not known was F-4 capable to launch them or it was only telemetric tests

[Youka_Saryn]

Some pictures of the EJ Kai Pilots seat and WSO seat

[Youka_Saryn]

[Youka_Saryn]

[ayung0227]

pls god, dont let f4ej kai adtw be a premium vehicle

[HisuiHakuren-psn]

Greetings, fellow gentlemen of the skies!

We’ve seen plenty of heated debates regarding whether the F-4EJ Kai should finally receive the AAM-3. With the latest BR changes, staying competitive in the EJ Kai has become an uphill battle.

Facing off against the likes of the F/A-18A, F-15A/J, and MiG-29, the EJ Kai is simply outmatched by their maneuverability and superior weaponry. And let’s be honest—even if you try to run, they’ll catch you in a heartbeat! HAHAHA XD

Don’t you think it’s finally time we let him carry the AAM-3? I, for one, am dying to see him fully equipped with them. Adding the underwing drop tanks would also open up so many more tactical possibilities on these large maps.

I’d love to hear what you all think.

[Cpt_Bel_V]

it’s AAM-3 or BR placement at this point.

even more since F/A-18A is 12.3 too

but AAM-3 mean 13.0 BR

BR placement without AAM-3 means 12.0.

[Panther2995]

@Cpt_Bel_V

but AAM-3 mean 13.0 BR

Uh uh, same br as F-2 ADTW.

Do you even hear yourself or just typing whatever you want at this point?

[_kyrnosuk]

F-15 with aam-3 is 12.7 now

[Panther2995]

Appearantly F4EJ KAI will become so much better than F-15J that it has to go to 13.0 with AAM-3 according to him.

Lol, lmao even.

[Youka_Saryn]

Something I feel like sharing here since it might Interest a few people here

Cockpit Photos of the F-4EJ Kai

Spoiler

Pilot seat

WSO seat

Cockpit Photos of the F-4EJ Kai ADTW (serial no. 07-8431)

Spoiler

Pilot seat

WSO seat

One of the more interesting differences I have found was this.

Standard F-4EJ Kai WSO panel

vs
F-4EJ Kai ADTW WSO panel

[Youka_Saryn]

F-4EJ Kai with live AAM-3

[Youka_Saryn]

here you have an F-4EJ Kai from 1994 with AAM-3

(Photographed on June 20, 1994.)

[HisuiHakuren-psn]

I would like to add a further point regarding the current combat effectiveness of the F-4EJ Kai.

Recently, the AIM-7F equipped on the EJ Kai seems to lose its lock much more easily than before, leading to a noticeable drop in accuracy. In a meta where the F-4’s maneuverability is already significantly inferior to its fourth-generation rivals, this perceived “nerf” to its primary long-range weapon makes the aircraft almost impossible to fight with.

Therefore, the need for AAM-3 implementation—without a further BR increase—is more critical than ever. Furthermore, historical documentation clearly indicates that the F-4EJ Kai was capable of carrying the AIM-7M.

If the F-15J, which shares this same armament, is now positioned at 12.7, there is no reason why the F-4EJ Kai should be denied its historical access to both the AAM-3 and AIM-7M. Giving it these missiles would finally provide the “Super Kai” with a fighting chance in the current environment.