Tbf ive played the su 30sm and yeah i wasnt impressed with the plane but the r77-1 were the only thing carrying the plane in bvr
R77-1 are a bit slower of the rail compared to micas and a bit faster than aim 120 but they have a pretty solid sustainer that burn for quite a long time giving it a substantial amount of speed and energy allowing it to be better than the aim 120 at ranges by 1-2 second which is small but still good and at closer ranges they are almost comparable to the mica performance wise
Though despite all that the su 30 is still a boat and the worse flanker in my opinion
I did have a similar feeling that all the other arhs were better than the r77-1 but i think its mostly because the su 30 is a garbage platform overall
The r77-1 should’ve been added to the su 27sm and we should’ve got the sm3 or the su 35
slight off topic but the current Su-27SM is basically already the SM3 it has the upgraded engines and 2 extra missiles, gaijin just gave it those by adding double pylons it shouldnt have instead of changing the 3d model to incorperate two extra wing pylons
also the 27SM3 didnt recive a radar upgrade
and imo the only plane that deserves the 77-1 is the Mig-29SMT the Su-27 is fine as it is
The smt is quite bad though but yeah it would’ve helped if it got r77-1
It’d prolly bring it up to 13.7, back to being analogues to the F-16C.
@Xeno_quaza Really minor gripe, but it doesn’t seem right that the F-2A, which is newer than the F-15MJ doesn’t have a SAPHEI belt for its Vulcan(which is even a newer model of the M61 than the one on the F-15MJ!).
It seems like an oversight, but I have no idea how to report something like this.
Not gonna lie, it’s not really something that’s bug reportable as far as im aware. To my knowledge japan doesn’t actually use 20mm SAPHEI rounds irl. The J(M) simply got them because gaijin gave all late service M61A1s them, regardless of operation by country. Since the M61A2 is technically a separate gun, quite annoyingly I don’t believe it would be possible to bug report without historical sources.

That’s odd. I was under the impression that the US had replaced all of its older Vulcan ammo with SAPHEI decades ago. I would’ve expected other countries to have done the same by now.
The US had yes, but the JASDF seems to be very fond of holding onto older stock of munitions. See: the AAM-3 still being the most common SRM carried despite the AAM-5 being over 2 decades old, M117s being in use till the later 90s, and their continued use of JP-4 for decades after the US had stopped.
I barely have any knowledge on air but currently grinding Japan air tree, why is F-15J considered the best 13.7 and how do you play it in the current matchmaker?
Same way you play any other plane at top tier, honestly. It’s a very well rounded plane that’s good at everything, but not best in class at anything. Playing high can work, but in up tiers can be a bit iffy from many things having more energy then you.
You gotta be a bit defensive though, generally you’ll be running 6x ARHs, which, while enough to comfortably use, is not enough to put up the shear amount of pressure some of the flankers or similar can. You do have a solid amount of CMs, but again like it’s ARH load, its not as endless as some planes have, so you do got to pay a little bit of attention to making sure you don’t spend too many.
So, most people thought the lack of HMD would be the worst thing about the F-2 and a dealbreaker. To me though, the lack of speed and really tough compression above mach 1.1 are my main issues.
The speed I can work with but the compression is really painful especially if you’re playing low to the ground as you have a high chance of hitting the ground trying to maneuver. Even the AJ doesn’t compress this much so it’s weird
Now that i’m back from my lil break to making bug reports I intend to report issues on it. Primary sources very clearly state that the FBW was tuned to behave similarly at all speeds/altitudes/loads, so it compressing at high speeds does not seem accurate to that at all.
You could still try
on looking at some photos of the F-2 i noticed that there are some that deviate from the normal helmet used by the jasdf and was wondering if people knew


I wonder if serial F-2 productions ever got LRCS. Supposedly it was tested on one, and it worked, but I dunno if there’s anything on regular spec ones actually using it.
Got distracted from writing my F-2 maneuverability bug report by LRCS, which i got sidetracked by ESM, and somehow I ended up writing a RWR bug report instead of a FM one.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/kUXUiNdto8Pz
Basically the J/ASQ-2’s ESM isn’t strictly speaking a RWR, it looks for all radio signals, so the RWR should be able to determine threat types not just by radar pulse frequency/band, but also by things such as datalink like MIDS-LVT or specific Nav/Com equipment. So it should be able to differentiate more things then it currently can in game.
