Mitsubishi F-2

so it would be basically the same in wt other than seekerhead? I mean the aam4 is one of the best fox 3s, probably third after the r-77-1 and mica, but… can f-2 at least mount future aim 120 c-8s or something

Gaijin could model the AAM-4B as a much harder missile to notch and chaff, and also make it nigh-immune to multipathing (as all modern ARH missiles are anyway). It does have a bit more range, but that is due to the improved guidance logic.

Doubt it. I don’t even think Japan has any Charlies in stock, probably only Deltas for the F-35s.

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Their multiple requests to purchase AIM-9X Block II and AIM-120C7/C8/D3 were cleared multiple times.

Given how many AIM-120s they’ve acquired lately, I’m guessing some of those will be shared on the non-F-35 platforms alongside domestic missiles.

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Yeah, the F-15JM/JSI

Considering its taken them like a decade to run integration tests for the AAM-5, i doubt they’re planning on ecpanding the F-2’s air to air armaments more.

is aam5 better or worse than 9x block 2? I’ve heard that aam5 doesn’t have lofting/datalink, so unsure which would be better.

No datalink, both the 5 and 5B have lofting though.

The big advantage it has over the 9X is in IRCCM. Contrary to popular belief, IIR is not unfoolable in all conditions. The 9X uses a basic single band seeker, which looks for a hotspot which matches the size and intensity of the target. Meanwhile the 5B uses a higher resolution twin band seeker, which locks onto the shape, as well as size and intensity of the target.

What this means is that, while the 9X can be fooled from oversaturation from direct front or rear aspect (with a massive amount of flares), or in conditions where the ground or clouds are particularly prominent. The AAM-5B wont be. The difference between the 9X and the 5B is like the difference between a 9M and a 9X in terms of irccm.

Now, this isnt the only missile with this level of IRCCM, stuff like the Python 5 and mica IR NG would be similar. Now, currently all IIRs have the same level of IRCCM in game, but they really shouldnt. Although its kinda debatable if better irccm would even matter in game.

Regardless it should turn harder, simply from having more wing area, and the lacking DL doesnt matter that much as the 9X’s DL has no reconnect, and the 5-5B can still fire at targets outside their seeker gimbal via inertial guidence.

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Im not so sure R-77-1, especially being on the Su-30SMs flight model, is top ARH after the MICA… suppose it could just be skill issues but after unlocking the Su-30SM I am not all that impressed myself and have found most other ARH missiles 100x more reliable.

I think the R-77-1 may have an advantage at 1.5km-6km but outside of that nearly every other missile can do what it does but better. But I do agree that AAM4s and MICAs are quiet powerful, they are responsive and predictable.

Tbf ive played the su 30sm and yeah i wasnt impressed with the plane but the r77-1 were the only thing carrying the plane in bvr
R77-1 are a bit slower of the rail compared to micas and a bit faster than aim 120 but they have a pretty solid sustainer that burn for quite a long time giving it a substantial amount of speed and energy allowing it to be better than the aim 120 at ranges by 1-2 second which is small but still good and at closer ranges they are almost comparable to the mica performance wise
Though despite all that the su 30 is still a boat and the worse flanker in my opinion
I did have a similar feeling that all the other arhs were better than the r77-1 but i think its mostly because the su 30 is a garbage platform overall
The r77-1 should’ve been added to the su 27sm and we should’ve got the sm3 or the su 35

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slight off topic but the current Su-27SM is basically already the SM3 it has the upgraded engines and 2 extra missiles, gaijin just gave it those by adding double pylons it shouldnt have instead of changing the 3d model to incorperate two extra wing pylons
also the 27SM3 didnt recive a radar upgrade

and imo the only plane that deserves the 77-1 is the Mig-29SMT the Su-27 is fine as it is

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The smt is quite bad though but yeah it would’ve helped if it got r77-1

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It’d prolly bring it up to 13.7, back to being analogues to the F-16C.

@Xeno_quaza Really minor gripe, but it doesn’t seem right that the F-2A, which is newer than the F-15MJ doesn’t have a SAPHEI belt for its Vulcan(which is even a newer model of the M61 than the one on the F-15MJ!).

It seems like an oversight, but I have no idea how to report something like this.

Not gonna lie, it’s not really something that’s bug reportable as far as im aware. To my knowledge japan doesn’t actually use 20mm SAPHEI rounds irl. The J(M) simply got them because gaijin gave all late service M61A1s them, regardless of operation by country. Since the M61A2 is technically a separate gun, quite annoyingly I don’t believe it would be possible to bug report without historical sources.

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That’s odd. I was under the impression that the US had replaced all of its older Vulcan ammo with SAPHEI decades ago. I would’ve expected other countries to have done the same by now.

The US had yes, but the JASDF seems to be very fond of holding onto older stock of munitions. See: the AAM-3 still being the most common SRM carried despite the AAM-5 being over 2 decades old, M117s being in use till the later 90s, and their continued use of JP-4 for decades after the US had stopped.

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I barely have any knowledge on air but currently grinding Japan air tree, why is F-15J considered the best 13.7 and how do you play it in the current matchmaker?

Same way you play any other plane at top tier, honestly. It’s a very well rounded plane that’s good at everything, but not best in class at anything. Playing high can work, but in up tiers can be a bit iffy from many things having more energy then you.

You gotta be a bit defensive though, generally you’ll be running 6x ARHs, which, while enough to comfortably use, is not enough to put up the shear amount of pressure some of the flankers or similar can. You do have a solid amount of CMs, but again like it’s ARH load, its not as endless as some planes have, so you do got to pay a little bit of attention to making sure you don’t spend too many.

So, most people thought the lack of HMD would be the worst thing about the F-2 and a dealbreaker. To me though, the lack of speed and really tough compression above mach 1.1 are my main issues.

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The speed I can work with but the compression is really painful especially if you’re playing low to the ground as you have a high chance of hitting the ground trying to maneuver. Even the AJ doesn’t compress this much so it’s weird

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Now that i’m back from my lil break to making bug reports I intend to report issues on it. Primary sources very clearly state that the FBW was tuned to behave similarly at all speeds/altitudes/loads, so it compressing at high speeds does not seem accurate to that at all.