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If only the AAM-3 had IRL accurate off bore-sight performance…
(It can outperform the R-73 in off boresight in some specific scenarios).
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sincerely doubt that unless its range. the r73 irl was 60gs, not sure about aam-3 but I’m pretty sure it would still pull less than r73 at almost every speed even if it had dual plane.
It works on the first turn but afterwards yea, too slow for the missile to do anything. This also brings the risk of trading ARH missiles if not on the deck.
Also question since you were in a few aircraft in the video I posted earlier, does the F-2 really lose on the deck rate fights to EFT? Rafale I can maybe see, but when testing on the latest dev, it felt like the EFT always lost the rate fight at low speeds. I haven’t gotten to test on live yet. Most of the merges end up as the situation I just described where either we trade or they try to defend and eat the missile
Maybe, the comparison is more between AAM-3 with dual plane implemented the same way Magic 2 got dual plane compared to current R-73.
It’s not really a full IRL comparison any more than it is just trying to get an IRL feature added to the current missile in game the same way it’s represented on another, even if that isn’t necessarily even how it would work in reality.
turn the radar off and on
I mean, we have secondary sources claiming it to have a maximum off-boresight 3x the 9Ls, which would put it around 60 degrees, which would put it above the R-73’s 45. Now sure the R-73 in game can do more then that, but people would be well overriding the missile’s proper engagement zone to do so.
I did test out the AAM-3 with BTT modeled, and it did compete with/beat the R-73 in game past a few hundred meters. (Which I should say as before, is far too close for either missile’s minimum engagement range IRL). Although yeah in really up close shots nothing competes with TVC.
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Also, besides BTT, i’m currently looking into a CoM issue which would make the AAM-3 turn even harder then this. As currently in game the AAM-3 has similar stability characteristics to other IRs, when it’s CoM should be behind it’s CoL, which would cause it to turn much, much sharper. (Although given how WT models guidance, this wouldn’t be possible outside of a custom mission due to instability issues with guidance updates).
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Do you have a stats sheet for the aam-3 like this one for the r-73e? That way we could really compare it.
While you are forced to launch at ±45 degrees, the missile can properly engage onto enemies that are ±75 degrees which is higher than the 60 of the aam-3
turning it off and on again should be fine
Unfortunately not, japan is generally vague about stuff, and “９０式空対空誘導弾 Ｐ １０１０” is missing from our archives for some reason.
So most of our information is pieced together from multiple sources.
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Also just adding an example here to what I have been discussing at the bottom (ignore my flying skills, I suck lol):
The F-15 part is irrelevant, but I wanted to point out how the vertical HMD is useful and how you don’t really feel the loss of a HMD.
I also wanted to showcase what I meant about the 1 circle scenario (even though in this clip I was late and only because it was an F-16 was I able to match his turn and it being against an AIM-120 pull hard to kinematically evade). However, it shows how you could potentially trade depending on how much energy both aircraft burn to get the first shot.
Also you can see that I opted to use the AAM-4 once the F-16 was out of multipath height instead of AAM-3 but I did queue up the AAM-3 just in case the AAM-4 did not track or did no damage (missile bug that hopefully should be fixed by now)
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Very cool, but I must ask - why not carry the two extra AAM-3s?
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I’m going for the “Ace Combat” loadout because I think it looks cool, that’s all lol
looks like Sparrows to me tho
googled Ace Combat F2, it has 6 AAM-4s xd nvm that’s some Super Kai fantasy
They probably are using that model though the point being the placement of the pylons. It just looks aesthetically pleasing to me to have your “main weapons” on your wings and “self defense” weapons on your wing tips.
Yea, I was going to say, it’s the Super Kai they added at some point in AC7 that had additional pylons
it dose, the ef and rafale currently have very similar flight performance with the only real discrepancy being high speed g limit with the rafale being able to pull 15-16g while the ef is closer to 14g. so effectively the fight plays out the same it just might take slightly longer for the ef to win in rate as the better high speed pull of the rafale allows it to merge faster and carry more speed in the early stages of the fight which effectively lets it gain a bunch of angle for free.
i doubt it
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Interesting
I’m having this problem, and even with the enemy in my field of vision, the radar is blind. Not to mention that on the first lock on the enemy, the radar simply goes blank.
Yeah it was mostly fine for me before, but recently the ACM mode is broken. It drops the lock instantly or tries to lock random stuff all over the place
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