Fresh skin out, the third from me so far…
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I really hope it at least gets regular 9ps while on live server also is the radar falcon pulse seeker?
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Imsorry but a mirage 3C at 9.7 is gonna re compress the entire bracket?? why cantyou see that xD what is a venom going to do against a fully afterburning super sonic mirage? or a mig17 or any 8.7 .
Compression isn’t the answer. Also isnt there a report to give this thing aim9P-5s? the mirage currently being implemented or am i missing something?
EDIT: as well does this swiss 3C not get counter measures? , if so its yet another reason to be 10.0 as the french one doesn’t
Yes it does? it does absolutely great at 10.7
I’m talking about the Mirage IIICS and not the S we’ll be getting in the game. The CS with two AIM-9Bs, no countermeasures and RWR shouldn’t be a problem as far as the game is concerned, as we already have the MiG 19s and some Fishbeds at 9.3, the T-2 and MiG 21S at 9.7. The Mirage is equivalent in flight performance to all of those. Should the matchmaking get decompressed? Yeah. Will it get decompressed? No.
those also are ridiculously under BR’d man.
Not if we keep demanding stuff jammed in at BRs they shouldn’t be.
However, is it going to be the swiss equivelant of a milan? xD
9.7 aint too bad for that.
We’ll never get Br decompression lol. People have been demanding it since I’ve started playing in 2016 and nothing was ever done about it. It always got worse and worse, so frankly I can’t say I care much about it anymore.
And yes, it would effectively be a slower, but more maneuverable Milan ingame
It did get better, wasnt even that long ago, then they decided the legacy fighters wer eto go to 8.0 and the F16 etc to 12. 3
further recompressing
, we could get decompression, if we all stopped bickering.
Didn’t realise the milan was faster than 3C’
IIIE is compareable to MiG-21MF/SMT which sit at 10.3.
I’m still confused as to what variant you mean. Switzerland had one C, then S/RS and BS/DS twoseaters…
Well, the Milan was designed specifically for Switzerland… ;-)
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For the Swiss Mirage it depends on the variant of course the innitial one would be reasonable at 9.7.
Compare to MiG-21S.
Perhaps 10.0 if AIM-26B turns out to be amazing.
The later variant does depend on the missiles it gets and thankfully does have countrrmeasures.
3E performs better than them in my experience with it.
I know next to nothing about the french air craft designed to go outwith, so if the Milan was designed for the swiss, did something prevent them getting it IRL?
What do u mean.
Even as
@Schindibee
“I’m still confused as to what variant you mean. Switzerland had one C, then S/RS and BS/DS twoseaters…”
How could there be a 9.7/ 10.0 variant when there was only the one mirage 3C variant for the swiss?
Im getting confused af 😂
(Which we sadly then also didn’t get because of our [-----heavily censored-----] politicians…)
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Wait u had an a7d ? Or e variant.
I gotta ask is the Milan any good?
I think a Swiss IIIC should be treated as the French one, as it differed little from it: Could carry FALCO’s, but not fire them.
IIIS early (with AIM-9B and E) could be at 10.3, like French IIIE
IIIS late (, what is modelled now; with AIM-9P-3, P-4 and P-5) could be at 11.7 (like Thai F-5E FCU/SCU)
Btw, anyone know if the AIM-9P-3 has a limited all aspect capability?
Just read in my new Swiss Tiger book that during shooting trials in Sweden with the AIM-9P3, they could successfulyl lock and fire also 9P-3’s from frontal aspect!
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Read my note on it above…
Both Corsair and Milan were evaluated, Corsair won with a wide margin, but for political reasons it was then decided not to purchase it after all. It should have been called the A-7G, but based on the D… = (
I love it for base bombing in Sim EC.
But if you try to use it as fighter in AB/RB, you’re using it wrong…
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IIIC later got upgraded to the IIIC C.70.
IIIC is IIIS and later IIIS C.70.
The later variant got the canards and all aspect missiles as well as countermeasures.
MiG 21MF and SMT easily are on eye level with the IIIE.
Are you sure about that? Afaik J-2201 left service already in 1978, way before the C.70 canards were developped and introduced…
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Yeah i seen you mention that it couldn’t fore the FALCO’s.
Due to the canards and counter measures i reckon 10.3 would be its lowest, people sleep on aim9Es a lot but if you use the missile right its still decent enough.
Ngl with the p-5s i could see it going to 12.0, they are IRCCM and as you say 9M equivelant.
Would be a bit daft a mirage to have aim9m equivalent at a lower br than a harrier.
With just p-4s reckon 11.3 of 11.7.
That would of been intersting to see tbh.