i have an old topic talking about how they should add 15.3 or even 16.0 to balance all the BRs, but obviously Gaijin will not do what their beloved players say.
friendly reminder that the only equivalent at that BR that im aware of is the AIM-9M which is only avalible on the A-10. would you rather be in an A-10 than a mirage?
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tbh yes, A-10C has decent CAS weaponry, 2 more IRCCM missiles, better cannon and way better maneuverability, and since it’s so slow u can reversal most enemies if u know how to dodge bullets (or launch AIM-9Ms to the enemy). plus AIM-9M works better than other IRCCM missiles in head-ons.
i have played Su-25 which has a very similar gameplay to the A-10 and i would prefer Su-25 over MiG-21SMT.
He’s kinda right though.
The Mirage F1 has a low skill floor (thanks to the Magic Iis) and a really high skill ceiling.
MOST players wouldn’t like the F1 and would only ever get kills with the Magic IIs, which is completely fair, but the people who get really good in the F1s can run the match with their (decent) FM, solid missiles, good radar, and solid amount of CMs .
And I’m not saying the F1 should stay at 12.0. Fighting F-15s in this thing is stupid, but the plane is good enough where it is that it can’t go down without further decompression (which we direly need.)
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your main argument against the F1C was the thrust and maneuverability. I can guarantee you an F1C has infinitely more thrust than an A-10, so that point is void, and the maneuverability doesnt really matter considering youre so incredibly slow in the A-10 that by the time you do turn, your enemy is most likely too far to even use a 9M. adding on to that, the 9Ms range is extremely reduced (youre looking at around 5km maximum, and thats assuming your enemy doesnt maneuver at all) due to the A-10s abysmal speed.
as for the better cannon, you need to manually aim it since you dont have a radar, and yes, you have better cas, youre comparing an air superiority fighter to a flying anti tank gun with hardpoints.
overall, you get no radar, infinitely less speed and thrust, harder to aim gun, lower range missiles, a complete lack of radar missiles, and no defense all for two more missiles of a worse type.
The mirage is fine, you get guaranteed kill missiles if you fire them rear aspect, just dont head on enemies with radar missiles and youre fine
mostly compression imo, it takes reserve to 9.0 to go from the 30s to the 50s, and 12.0 to 13.0 to go from the late 60s to the 2000s, i mean we still have F14s fighting F-15Es pretty often
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If you REALLY wanna show how bad compression is, the F-14A Early (1974) can fight against the F-2A (2000), J-11B (2007) , Su-27SM (2014, nearly a HALF CENTURY difference) and a whole lot of other planes which came out decades after.
Those are just the introduction dates for those planes, the ones we have in game are the most advanced versions. (for the 27SM and F-2A at least.)
the main good thing of the plane are Magic 2s and countermesures, everything else sucks.
FM is comparable to a boat and a 11.7 MiG-23ML can beat u in a dogfight, RWR is good but it sometimes gets random pings about things not coming for u, 530F are really good if u know how to use them but they’re still one chaff-able missiles.
M1A2 SEP V2: 2007/2008
T-90M: 2017
great, more compression, as many people say, we need decompression, i have an entire topic talking about 15.3/16.0 and Gaijin still retains us with 14.7.
Ironically the M1A2s are better than the T-90M.
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if u didn’t know, MF1 doesn’t have EEGS, by the other hand: MiG-23MLD has at 11.7
F-5s also don’t have a radar, and they don’t suck.
also A-10’s cannon is way more brutal and has WAY more range due to the extremely fast bullets, u can one shot things at 1km with ease compared to the dual 30mm of the MF1C which are way slower.
u serious?
AIM-9M has way more range and fuel than Magic 2 lol, Magic 2’s booster only lasts 2 secs while the Sidewinder lasts for much longer.
yeah sure, and MF1C gets one chaff-able radar missiles + a meh radar.
u know MF1C only has 2 IRCCM missiles, right? and after that u have 2 half-useless SARH missiles which are useful when ur target isn’t multipathing or AWARE.
at 12.0, yes, in uptiers, no.
if i need to keep facing Su-27s in the MF1, i prefer to force Gaijin bring it to 11.7 even if it’s unfair for 10.7 planes (which i don’t feel it’s going to happen since the only thing the MF1 has over any other aircraft is 2 IRCCM missiles, anything else it carries is mostly dead-weight).
i just discovered a cool trick that usually works and it’s launching Magic 2s at enemy i have a hard lock on them, since they get RWR pings, that makes them feel im launching a 530F (since it doesn’t have LAUNCH warnings, just TRK warnings).
and people still say T-90M is better cuz russian bias exists.
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It’s complicated, but an easy way to think of it is…
If you have two, equal, low skill players, the T-90M will be better.
if you have two, equal, high skill players, the M1A2 will be better.
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NATO never had and won’t have high skill players.
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Truth nuke.
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I’m absolutely sure you would rather fly at 600kph in an A-10 than mach 1.3 in a mirage f1, you totally aren’t just being a contrarian.
So what are you saying the BR should be?
Dates don’t matter, performance do. You would make much better points by pointing out what F-14 lacks that it faces
It’s complicated.
it can’t go down, it can’t go up.
in the end, we just need decompression.
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Oh you know…
Good RWR, good Fox-3s, IRCCM missiles, more CMs, better FMs.
And the F-2A even gets an AESA radar.