Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

Oh, well I think its less. more like 2-2.5km if you can investigate further please do. Its the one missile I have to be quite literally on an opponent’s ass at top tier. As you know everyone is flying supersonic and dogfighting near supersonic.

Especially the Block 50s. So as good as the magic is in acceleration off the rail and IRCCM which is lovely. It has got no range on the stealthy aim9M and carrying less on the M2k 9 times out of 10, The M2k is at a disadvantage.

very very nice

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Currently, in rear aspect, in game, the magic 2 has about the range of the r73. That is, because the R73 loses all of its energy due to the oscillations of the PID system. I have managed 2.5km rear aspect shots against a target going about mach1, and 3km I totally possible in subsonic. 3.5km seems to be the longest shots you can do against slower aircrafts

Thank you, but you still have not confirmed whether 3.0km+ is possible like the Aim9L,M, H and G. R73, R24 & Pl5C and 8/python.

I know for a fact they are not capable of ranges in a Mach chase as the mentioned missiles. Why is this a question?

Oh definitely. The magic 2 still is amongst the shortest range IR missile, especially at top tier. The r60 is the only worst one on that aspect

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yeah isnt the Magic II IRL better than that?

It was recently ‘corrected’ but there are other changes in the works such as 50G and improved IRCCM.

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I don’t think so. The magic 2 could be resumed as “go fast but not far” type of missile. It goes extremely fast, turns extremely well, but ends out of fuel (and hence slow down) really quickly, especially when maneuvering.
The current glaring issue in the way the magic 2 handles is still his limited G load, as it is still only using single plane maneuvering, while under dual plane it can handle 50G constant max load.
Then, there’s an issue with the activation time of the fuse, and the IRCCM not being powerful enough. Overwise i think he is pretty good for now.
There’s a reason why the French army used the MICA IR, as it’s apt he more expensive, but extra long range IR missile in the French armement.
However, according to SMin. The missile is too powerful for the current game, but we’ll see in the next few updates, as it might become more relevant

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Oh I was under the impression it had range akin to the Aim9L. That sucks BUT if they give us the 50G total eventually like Mig said I am happy with that.

doesn’t have the dog fight capability of the r73 but not quite the range of the aim9 i think it has almost the best of both worlds if it gets the 50g and better irccm in the future, like the mica it’s versatility is its best trait.

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Yeah, I agree, and it’s got python type of acceleration too, so I am not complaining too much. I just thought it had more range than that. Can’t have it all.

That is a great way to look at it. Highly versatile being we can only hold so many. Can’t wait for the M4k!

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I did not get the chance to quite read all this. I see, makes perfect sense. Thank you!

4x Magics for the S5 though? Does not seem like an out-of-pocket request. : )

Or even 4x magic I’s would on the S5 would be sick and unique. 2x2x Magic 1’s and 2’s

Considering the 5F does carry 4 magic 2s, there are no reason as of why the S5 can’t, aside from having wanting to make the 5F more unique I guess.

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Also no HMS either… No reason to hold 4x Magic IIs. You get HMS and 6xPL-8s with J8F…

Yeah, want to keep the 5F special and unique.

The non presence of this loadout for the moment goes way beyond just 5F being unique :

  1. Magic 2 still has numerous buffs to get through time
  2. Maintaining 11.7 BR because such loadout with 4xIRCCM missiles that are unflarable at close range in BRs such as 10.7 with such a strong platform just almost indecent + such BR will be impossible to maintain with that loadout in the future.
  3. C-S5 is kind of bound to replace the actual 5F that’ll surely go up in BR in the future, also there is possibility 4 Magic 2 come to C-S5 but a little bit later which will probably resulty in Mirage 2000 C to be 12.0 while 5F will be probably 13.0
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interesting perspective. Makes sense.

The S5 is pretty good now as is at 11.7 too.

The Mirage 2000C-S3 exists in-game and can be used with 2x magic 2 and 2x super 530F loadout for 11.7 in the future, but I wouldn’t want to grind through that to get two more M2K’s.

the more M2Ks the better! I will take all of them and every color they came in, please.

I don’t even remember the lighting and cockpit being this advanced looking. Its been too long since I played the 5F heavy.

I think 5th gens use the LED hue.

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Since some people have been getting confused on the potential loadouts for Mirage 2000-5F with Fox 3s, I thought I’d clear it up

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/977208897049866250/1179783514422517801/Loadouts.png?ex=657b0a05&is=65689505&hm=7c38c07ca24854564faf451ae2f3e73294a114f30a70dd2212de1bff2eba881e&

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