Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

Well,… being objectives there is somes good upgrades been made with update,…

Yet, it’s not enough, and there is still things to do.

530D seems to be working better than ever. I’m not having issues with it so far.

Same for Magic. Just got a 5km kill with it.

Although the radar getting stuck in ACM has killed me multiple times

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Not certain, only that these issues were seen and acknowledged / not rejected. The locking the sun thing isn’t gonna get fixed without further research.

I’d go so far as to say the 530D is the most potent SARH missile in the game right now. Although this should be taken with a pinch of salt because I exclusively play SB.

With the addition of the R-27ER everyone hugs the ground now and the 530D seems to fair better at extremely low altitude compared to others. I’ve also pulled off some disgusting rear-aspect shots.

Well it is better than previously : YES

Is it better than anyone: NO
As you told us, your targets fear R-27ER not S.530D

Is it worth using now: well better than before but can still be improved.

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It’s better that they don’t fear it, if they underestimate it then it’s easier to get those kills. It’s able to succeed in low alt head-on’s where the R-27ER can’t. It’s a lot more agile a short range.

I know we all want range but in SB at the moment only the odd fool flies at 4000m, the others are on the deck where SARHs are virtually useless but it’s in this little niche that the 530D does well and I don’t see that changing any time soon as it’s currently the best way to defeat BVR.

I play sim too, so i’m curious when you say using S530D at low altitude. if you can show some clip about this, it will be great. In my case, i will never use against a target at very low alt, because it will be very easy to defend.

I still take one in my loadout in case of “the odd fool flies at 4000m” but that’s all. But i agree with Bel_V currently S530D is lackluster

Here some clip with S530D (and this happen too often) while i was testing
This is what i mean when i say lackluster/inconstant.

Front shot - PD mode - Fail to hit
https://streamable.com/3pfyzg

Front shot - PD HDN - Fail to hit
https://streamable.com/r3d6iw

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SIM - Side Shot - TRK mode (no flare/no GC) - Self explosion
https://streamable.com/cng2uo

Front shot - PD mode - fail to hit
https://streamable.com/8ny8v5

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Rear shot - PD mode - Fail to hit (Straight line + bunch of flare + no defensive fly)
https://streamable.com/qo3qm4

Front shot - PD mode - Fail to hit (Just look how i have to fly low and how he has to fly with almost nothing to defeat the missile.)
https://streamable.com/gqnxwh

Just imagine those scenarios but with the combo MiG29 - R27ER or F-16C - Aim7M.
If i’m not wrong @DirectSupport even posted Bug Report, S530D shouldn’t have a problem to track for rear shot. It is not the case in those clip.
And PD radar mode (without HDN) feel like useless.

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1 is proxyfuze bug

2 is just plain stupid, but rarely I’ve had a sparrow&R24R do similar

3 is because the missile struggles to see notching targets and Gaijin decided all non-data-link missiles should instantly self-destruct the millisecond they lose lock.

Looks like the incoming missiles messed up the tracking in 4&5, its pretty stupid and almost certainly unrealistic but i’ve had sparrows do the same. *4 might also have been a proxy bug since it seems to have gotten very close

1,2 was yesterday day, 3,4 3 to 4 days ago, 5,6 6 to days ago

@pyroraptor841 indeed for 4,6 it seems to follow the track path of incomming AAM.

i still have more clips but don’t want to spam this thread since i can’t upload in one post because of the new user limit. I will do more caution for S530D.
Still the 3 is rather curious. Because i was not in PD mode, the guy is up in the sky, he’s not droping flares and there is no groundclutter, the lock is solid. And i am sure it would not be a problem for the missile before this major update. (other maybe missile overcorrecting his track path in previous patch)

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Seems to be happening a lot recently.

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Not using PD mode on a notching target will let your radar continue to track it, but the 530D still needs a very strong doppler shift to find its target.
Missile is essentially blind if the target notches regardless of environment and clutter. At least that’s how they coded it in game. An isolated target like that would be easy work for the 530D irl

What’s the vid hosting people use to post on here? I’ve got a couple of clips of the 530D that don’t reflect that same behaviour in SB, very odd

Igmur or streamable, I think both have limit of 250 mb.

when can we expect the upgraded Pakistani Mirage Project R.O.S.E. variants?

Never? Pakistanii aircrafts are added to china as premiums and there is already choices in Chinese TT

Also ROSE mirage are Mirage 3 variant

how about adding the mirages of pakistan to france cuz IDK the MIRAGES are french?

Mirage 3 and 5

1st → those are pakistannese since the change from ROSE,… (not a single ROSE were made in France)

2nd → gimme an exemple of premiums being added from the same “ultra-minor country” to 2 of the Big 9 nations of the game?

3rd → France would benefit from a Mirage 4000 more than Mirage 3 Rose. ^^"

Last but not least: mirage 5 is a Mirage 3 variant, which is specialized into CAS mission.

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Pakistani* but french by origin, no one can deny that and even i as a pakistani cannot claim the mirage design to be my nations property.

premiums?
2 nations?
i feel you may have mis understood me. i want the mirages to be in one TT.

well ill have to check the M4000’s weapons loadouts for that, but regardless, Project ROSE will help the vehicles at the BR it is implemented at.

all delta wing mirages are variants and developments of each other (delta wing (this excludes the f1C))