Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

For me they had simply removed the thermal of the 2000D when the 2000-5F was implemented. I have the mirage 2000 5 with NVD, and thermals still work on the targeting pod. I’m going to try and uninstall the NVD on the 2000D I check for the targeting pod. It sounds weird still

Edit : after trying it it still does not work for me, no NVD in the targeting pod of the 2000D

I’ll try this evening

I don’t know what you think about the current state of M2K-5F on this major update.

-Irccm of Magic 2 is lackluster
Apparently it has the same level of irccm of R-73 but at least r-73 has more range, better pull, and thrust vectoring. And let’s not talk about irccm of Aim-9M, you can get hit in head-on even after flaring.

-S530D the update is nice, but still weird thing happen with this missile. Easily defeated, i tried front side and rear shoot at this point just to test, the missile end it’s tracking path on flares way earlier than previously in PD mode while still having solid lock.
I don’t know if it’s a problem of the missile or if it’s because of the radar of M2K.

-Most important the radar of mirage 2000-5f in PD mode (without HDN mode) just feel useless for shooting missile, maybe just useful for tracking target.
The good part on this: normal track without PD is quite strong (hard lock ignoring flare sometimes) and PD HDN mode is very strong.
TWS PD is still missing.
Still missing flare system.

M2K is playable but how long we will have to wait to get it’s full capabilities? (not talking about Fox 3)

Now that other Major nation has a better radar capabilities, it would be interressing to see, how their SARH missile react in PD mode (without HDN)
Is it possible to test the combo F-16C/D+aim 7-M, MiG-29SMT+R-27ER with only PD mode to see the result

It’s all irrelevant, almost everything you said is going to change on the magic 2. (Hopefully soon?)

Yes i know, that’s your bug report (or @DirectSupport i don’t remember) is already on the way. Just hope it won’t be too long.
But for the rest, i see some people avoiding to use S530D and go for more Magic. Because less chance to hit and IR missile seems to be the way this patch.

And the IR missile will continue getting better. France won’t have a top competing radar missile in terms of velocity, time to target, range, etc imo. They’ll have better shorter range ordnance for some time. The MICA will have pretty good range regardless, though.

This issue of Aviation Week states clearly that the Magic 2 has “flare decoy rejection”. I take this to mean it has flare rejection similar to AIM-9M and also a reduced FoV. This missile clearly has much higher performance than Gaijin anticipated in the past.

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its a secondary source but if you find another secondary source stating this then a report can be made

I already have several but this one is more explicit (and still, not explicit enough imo)… We shall see what Gaijin decides.

don’t shoot 530D at notching or cold targets unless you’re less than 3 km from them

You’re correct the reference model makes it buggy

Working fine with the NVD removed like before the patch

Hi guys, just want to know, is there any problem with climb rate of Mirage 2000, in game it is 145m/s stock and for exemple the F-16 is shown at 250m/s, for what i know, Mirage have a more powerfull engine and is lighter than a F-16, so maybe my sources are wrong or there’s a default with his engine power ?

Well it’s Sad for a Fox-1 medium range missile, to be fired as close as a Magic-II,…

Something must be done.

There might be a default in drag of Mirage 2000,…

When doing same climb, with those conditions:

→ inital speed: 1100km/h (IAS)
→ afterburner
→ start altitude : 500m above sea level
→ full pitch to 70° degree of climb
→ end climb at 8500m

Results were based on IAS speed left, and time to reach end altitude

The result is quite outrageous…

I don’t remember the full results of this,… but Mirage 2000 was clearly under.

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Anyone notice the AS30L spiraling through the air now? Wobbles all over the place

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Not at this time as they’ve been working for me, I’ll keep an eye on them as I play more Mirage 2000D.

they do it doesn’t seem to affect speed but is odd i think it was in a report direct support made

The AS-30L is supoosed to rotate, it does so in real life. But despite the perceived wobbliness and rotation, it will be accurate and hit accurately.

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Interestingly, a tech mod took interest and reported it for us.

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Don’t look at statcard, take a look at the wiki warthunder page. But even then, it has better climb rate than that I think.