Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

On this topic, just want to mention that not all TV/IR FnF missile can switch from point to track. For exemple the current live PGM cannot switch, while the AGM65 and the Russian equivalent whose name I forgot can.
All in all I agree with AASM being OP, but with the way the dev is going, and British reports, the PGM might actually out range the AASM itself soonish, with up to 100km or range as I’ve heard

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Still that wouldnt make the missile balanced as ir missiles does not suffers the disadvantages of the fox 3, the missiles would be completely broken and will outperfom any current ir missile by a long shot, the magic 2 at 12.7 is more than enough specially when the missiles still have room to grow, so unless it has a shitty irccm like on the r27et it wouldnt be balanced,

This kind of stuff definitely is outside of the public knowledge. We can only assume that if nothing about it is mentioned, then the RWR is the same as the other D variants, which is I believe the same as the 5F. As mentioned above, those RWR are numeric so they can be reprogrammed to add new threats to its data base

The « issue » is that as of now, the RWR of the RMV is the same as the other mirages, so they would need to buff them all. But I agree that this nerf is quite non sensical since the data base is upgradable.
The mirage 2000-5F and RMV, but also the D-R1 have all flown far after the Pantsir entered service (with the -5F and RMV still flying today) so it makes no sense they can’t identify it

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Huh, I wonder what makes them different, since I was sure the PGM could as well.

Either way though, the PGM being buffed would just end up sticking it in the same category of (problematic) “standoff weapons”. By all metrics, its just poor game design to allow aircrafts to have weapons for which ground players have literally no way of fighting.

I feel like thats the sticking point some people dont understand about my stance. My issue isnt with the AASM itself, or in the russian threads, the Kh-38M’s, its with standoff weapons in GFRB as a whole. I dont mind these weapons being in-game, but them being used against players directly is only fun for the player launching them. If you want that kind of experience, doing so vs AI targets is effectively the same, except you arent ruining other players’ gameplay experience.

Everyone seems to want these weapons for their own nation but take offense to the idea of other nations having similar classes of weapons. Its a massive double standard imo.

This got implemented in a recent build.

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Now hope they make this work on ground targets and give double bomb racks for wings and RMV might not even require AASM no more to be strong and reliable

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Gaijin finally buff M2K5F countermeasure size! This is a nice addition. Thanks @WaretaGarasu for bumping it up, eventhough I haven’t heard of how M4K countermesure buff going.

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pilot change??? oh wait thats just gonna be HGU-55. sad days

This is very strange since only the Greek M2000 wears the same pilot equipment as the US.

Yeah, sadly there will be no chance of actual unique pilot for each country (despite Sweden and Japan had it). I’m not surprised though, because in before, we already had a Phantom Pilot in Mirage 2000 lol.

man i just want muh LA-100 :sob:

I checked and found they had a strange setup - ULMER type 87 on HGU-55.

I don’t care if it’s the US model at least we don’t get an Ouragan/F86 pilot in a Mirage lul

It works, Antilope have some issues getting locks on standing targets it seems. Probably a report on the radar would be appreciated but I am trying to find references.

Every Mirage 2000 Series CM are corrected now. About Mirage 4000 the report has been bumped.

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/rhbbUOsIbWkh
Is this accurate?

And you’re too, as the MICA-IR 60km max range is not up to it’s rocket engine, but the Avionics of the aircraft.

In such MICA-IR on Board Mirage 2000D RMV wouldn’t be able to reach such 60km, or by chance only.

You can’t guide it over 60km simply by IR
And if we imagine that we launch a 15km Rear-aspect MICA-IR on a Mach 2 aircraft, then 60km can be reached, but the missile would fall to 35G on 1st pull at long range.

Barely?
Yeah,… sure i’m not buying it.

But also, R27ET is not poking your radar, and also not used on slow aircrafts.

Overlooking real abilities on board Mirage 2000D RMV

you have a 1.33º ifov… for reference the one on the magic 2 is 0.75, so if irccm like the magic 2 and r73 are easy to flare at long range the r27 is stupidly easy

youre overlooking that everybody is stuck with ir missiles of the same era as the magic 2, again there is no reason for the RMV to get something while completely ignoring ever other nations, again currently magic 2s are more than enough at the br that the rmv is at.

Usually not an issue is it?