Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

Im against this weapon being added to GFRB because its an outright unfun game mechanic with literally no counter, only checks. I primarily play aircrafts and I’m still capable of empathizing with those on the ground wanting to at least have a chance. You’re clearly extremely biased with respects to this topic.

As for “the evolution of weaponry” I’ve literally stated I’d be fine with this stuff being locked to air battles like sim EC and having objectives warranting their addition. I don’t mind the AASM or more advanced stuff being in-game, I mind massively unbalanced weapons ruining the fun for others.

  1. Yes it is lmao
  2. POINT track does not require you to “keep an eye on your weapon for it to finish its course” POINT locks will switch to TRACK lock when in range of the sensor.

Then instead of saying long range weapons are the issue go get the pantsir deleted first because this shit is the primary reason why people keep wanting longer ranged weapons. Because afaik with 8km more range than the better SPAA there was before it got introduced Pantsir is the first thing that started ruining the fun in GRB. To a greater extent Russia is the problem this game have. They get best SPAA of GRB, best CAS planes of GRB, best A2G missiles of the game both on helis and planes. Russia alone is the reason why people are wanting those long range weapons. Remove russia go back to Ito/ADATS/FlarakRad VS AS30L/AGM65B era and GRB is fun.

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Just going to drop it here, as it affects you guys too.
[DEV] PGM family of missiles range underperforming
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ctFsg9SOlivp

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the m2k5f is supposed to get an actual hmd right? whats the status of its report

Hi guys! Has anyone tested the Chinese m2k? Is he ready yet? What kind of cabin is it?

it should and will be just the m2k 5f without a2g capability and fueling probe, the cockpit will be 1:1 the same as the 5F.

Su34 can get a lot closer than 20km due to not facing Pantsissies

Could that be related to this bug?

MOOOOORE FUEEEL!!!!

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Doesn’t anyone here think that the Mirage 2000D-RMV, as a 2023-released aircraft, should have an RWR system capable of identifying the radar signature of the Pantsir-S1?

We all know Gaijin uses time periods as an excuse to nerf NATO’s RWR, but NATO’s RWR systems are programmable, so the RMV model from 2023 should logically be able to detect search warnings from the Pantsir-S1 radar introduced in 2003.

In fact, all the aircraft and air defense vehicles currently in the game entered service earlier than the RMV, which means the RMV should have access to all aircraft radar signals.

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I am posting this for no other reason than expressing my love for the Mirage 2000C-S4.
Its my only Mirage so far. I grinded it in the event and have been playing it ever since. Its my best performing aircraft I think as it suits my playstyle pretty much perfectly.

Thank you, based angry angry dorito plane.

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@WaretaGarasu I finally found a picture of a 2000D with GBU-22s, I’m adding it to the bug report.

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Do you have any RWR data related to RMV that you can provide? It seems like you have more resources, and if possible, could you write some bug reports? As a Mirage player, I really hope to have a better gaming experience. Thank you.

thats a golden first post

Unfortunately my resources are limited to the armament of the aircraft, I have absolutely nothing on the internal systems

I might not worry gaijin rename to Mirage 2000D-R2 instead Mirage 2000D-R1 and change FLIR & laser designator pod

Added.

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"Honestly, adding the MICA IR to the game would make sense, especially since the planes equipped with it are strike fighters that only carry two. It wouldn’t make them overpowered but would give them a fair shot in mixed battles. Having more threads focused specifically on adding these new IR missiles could streamline these discussions and highlight the unique role each missile plays without derailing other topics. So, I’d argue the MICA IR is a balanced addition that should be considered tbh r27et has range of 9.5km from behind and its been like 2 years sense its been added mica ir is only better at turn 50g>>35g an irccm technology so 2 of them might garneted a 2 kill every time but if you can fire them in first place Beusse fox3 still the metta and these type of missile are coming out anyway in like 5 months so adding them now can make us pepper them for the acutel fighters that carry them :)

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I don’t know what your source is for this but the 2000D RMV is the only ground attack aircraft equipped with it, all other aircraft that carry it are aircraft with air combat or air superiority roles (2000-5F and Rafale) and can be carried on the same pylons as the EM, so up to 6.

I think that adding the Mica is not yet on the agenda because it implies adding IR missiles of the same generation/capacity in the game. I’m talking about the Aim-9X, ASRAAM, IRIS-T, PL-10, Python-5, R-73M, … And frankly, I would prefer that these missiles do not arrive in the game yet, especially when we see the compretion of the Br.

Moreover, I do not think that these missiles are a good thing for attack aircraft (for example the 2000D RMV or the Tornado), indeed, adding these missiles to them would only make them go up in Br, making them much less fun to play. To be honest, I have no desire to play the 2000D RMV in 13.3 or 13.7 just because it has 2 very good air-to-air missiles.

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yeah i mis type here i meant that m2k rmv is the only strike aircraft in game rn that can carry only 2 and we don’t have high tier plane that can have them next gen ir missile other then tornado and RMV mabye a10c but that plane is no going to like being 13,0 for 4 aim9x and 2 of them and it would be the same way the add 2 r73 to su25 at 11.3 way back then to do it right now and to test how they would perform and 2 of then even if they are op are not going to break the game