For information to those who are doing research on the radar, the “TC” means Telemetry-Mapping (Télémétrie-Cartographie), it is an update of the Telemetry and Mapping capabilities of the basic radar.
For the Air-Air mode, according to a pilot of a first generation 2000D only the ACM was available, the only use of this mode was to lock the tanker to navigate in bad weather or night. According to the testimony of an OSA, the guidance was done much more often thanks to the TGP than thanks to the radar because of the weak performances of the Antelope 5.
I feel like this is just update numbering, with Antelope 5 being the initial one.
From what I have read, the Antelope 50 would have been an export version of the Antelope 5, except that as the 2000D and N were never exported the radar was never produced in large quantities (maybe put on some 2000D?), the final version of the radar would be the Antelope 5 TC which improves its primary air-ground detection capabilities.
Everything I say here should be taken with a pinch of salt because I can’t prove anything, not all sources agree on the versions and the pilots/OSA who talk about it remain vague on the subject, the information being always more or less classified
eh, i’ve scattered through a lot of sources, and a lot of forums, and with the fact that the 2000D/N was never exported(other then the few legendary mirage 2000S’s were been spotted), its hard to find a evidence of antilope 50 or 53 even existing, other then the book which i found called “Dassault Mirage 2000 Variant Briefing” which is pre RMV era book which mentions that the R1 production series and up had antilope 53c, and best case scenario that can be used as a secondary source as the book still goes in great detail, but even that doesnt mention A-A capability of the Antelope radar set.
I think best we can do is accept that 2k D doesnt have a2a mode
Yes I think that will be the only solution, even the primary sources contradict each other, the extract from the Air Force book that I quoted above announces an Air-Air capability, but the pilots say the opposite, and I even came across an interview with a Squadron Commander announcing that the plane does not have an air-air mode
I must admit that I have not found many French sources talking about the Antilope 50. I have the impression that this name has rather been used by other countries to talk about the same radar.
the “Index of Radar Types included in the Radar Emitter Database” which is made by “Carpenter Data Partnership Group” in 2013 (and which is listed on the wikipedia for the antilope 5) not only mentions stuff like antilope 5/50, but antilope II, IV, V, 50 and 60, but thruth be told, it isnt a french website.
atleast i hope that once the the Antilope 5 will come on live servers, it will get something like TGP slaving to the radar lock or something similar, since some official sources say, that it can also be used for precision weapon firing, currently if you have a radar lock, tgp will not slave to the lock.
I must admit that I have doubts about this site, because even if I believe that the Antelope 50 existed, the Antelope II, IV and 60 seem very doubtful to me.
On the other hand yes, I am like you and I hope that the radar will at least be able to slave the TGP as Thales indicates, I must also admit that I hope for a reduction in BR, because even if it is a good plane, without radar, its effectiveness in air combat will be much more limited (I hope 12.3 or maybe 12.0)
the Antelope II, IV and 60 seem very doubtful to me.
this SS is from the forecast source, which also mentions antilope IV, i would guess that stuff like Antilope II, IV, etc, were just prototypes or test programs, or cancelled programs.
I hope so too, anyway the plane was already very good in sim before and should stay that way (except with this Br).
Overall I must admit that I am rather satisfied with the way the plane will be implemented (hoping that the radar will be reworked a little before the release). The weapons are almost all there, there is no invented weaponry (except the PGM, I still don’t know what they are doing there) and the Br is acceptable
i think with the fact that D R1 will get its air radar removed, and rmv will not have air radar aswell, i think for now with only magic II’s they should be at 12.0, as stuff like the new tornado gr 4 is 12.3 on sim, and it has invisible 9M’s compared to the shorter range visible magic II
