Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

Is anyone else having problems with the 530D? Seems to me as of this week the hit percentage of the missile has gone down significantly with targets doing minor maneuvering.

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Yes, missile is still burning, enemy does slight maneuver, and missile misses. I’ll see if I can report it sometime soon.

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Meanwhile the AIM7 tracks through notch, chaff, cold, 5 seconds self destruct and they got fucking 6 of them lmfao
Don’t know if i’ll bother with this event if it’s just to be food for the point and clickers of US air and RU ground

I’ve only witnessed AIM-7 burn through notch, chaff, etc when it was fired from a radar that can switch to SRC mode mid-lock.

Assuming you mean non-PD, that should get fooled by chaffs

I’m not talking about countermeasures and notching, just the 530D being unable to maneuver and hit a target in what appears to be 75% of circumstances

I mean, yeah. The F-14 can switch from TRK PD HDN to SRC and most of the time the AIM-7F will continue to guide through a notch and even sometimes ignore chaff.

You mean it’s in SRC, not TRK, and the missile continues tracking regardless of chaff and notch? Lmfao that’s not even surprising though, one more ridiculously unrealistic crutch to boost the dopamine in whales

It’s hardly unrealistic, its just that a significant number of mechanics are simplified across various aspects relating to missiles, Radars, the EM spectrum and Countermeasures among many others, so the implementation across the board isn’t quite right. It just so happens that we probably have the most detailed information about the Sparrow of all relevant systems.

F-4J & AIM-7 system description

NAVAIR 01-245FDB-1T 1972

Practically the only way to defeat a Sparrow should be you either;
Break the Shooter’s track
or
Defeat the Shot kinematically.

Notching and Chaff wouldn’t help in all scenarios (especially if MLC isn’t an issue due to look angle or altitude). It would need DECM & ECM pods (non radar sensors / BST mode and other auxiliary guidance methods & modes complicate things).

A missile tracking a search echo and ignoring clutter around it (such as chaffs) in a notch isn’t some edge case that we need to dig through a tactical manual for. That’s like when the R27ER had a data link capability like the Phoenix in the early weeks.

That being said I can’t reproduce in test flight with the F4S so idk if it’s a F14 specific thing. All I know is that whether i keep the jet or the missile at exactly 90 degrees, jinking up and down and chaffing, it still tracks like a R27ER tracks a head on target
And even if this is accurate and the Sparrow is somehow notch and chaff-proof, then they’re simply unfair and undertiered especially given how many they carry. Boils down to the same thing, handholding of the most lucrative nation, at least in ARB

The R-27ER still has a datalink capability similar to the Phoenix, it just lacks an active radar.
There is quite literally no hand-holding being done.

A missile tracking through sparse chaff and outside of a notch (It’s standard TRK, pulse mode… not pulse doppler)… seems you need to do some reading on the subject before making inflammatory comments like these. They’re not helpful at all. Especially when the topic was originally about bugs / issues with the Super 530D.

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Slimy. You know damn well I’m talking about when the R27ER could get mid course updates from TWS which is why I said like the Phoenix since that’s unique to it.

Aim7 isn’t tracking through “sparse chaff”, I dump everything I can every time while either notching the radar or going cold+jinking and it still tracks. If calling that out is “inflammatory” then I’m guessing you depend on these “mechanics”, which are as realistic as the pre-nerf 9L.

Datalink updates from TWS are an entirely different thing, datalink itself is quite specific. If you had mentioned TWS there would not have been a misunderstanding. Regardless, it was fixed rather quickly so what is the issue?

Can you demonstrate repeatably that it tracks through heavy chaff and jinking? Also yes, the “pre-nerf” AIM-9L was a bit more realistic than the current one based on documentation. The current one is too prone to eating flares when tracking afterburning targets.

What is your overall issue anyway? You seem to just be ranting aimlessly at this point.

I must be playing a different game than you guys.
I would estimate that I have a 70% success rate with the 530D in the 2k-5.

Most of the failures happen when I decide to take a high risk shot for the hell of it

The fact that it works within certain constraints isn’t the issue. It doesn’t work in areas and situations when it should.

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That’s what they want you to think,… i had many information on older aircrafts, and the modelisation was as bad as 2013 models in their prime,…

So no,… Gaijin just don’t have anyone in Company reading french of military documents,… they do understand 20% of all information given by those docs (flight manuals / french testing reviews)

I’ve seen it multiple times when i did tried to fix the Etendard IVM which have been fixed 3 years after release.

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If they lack an informant on French documents who can read and accurately translate that information it would make sense but that doesn’t disprove anything @AlvisWisla said. He said that they are not intentionally nerfing any particular weapon system. Their focus may not be on France as a minor nation in the game, but it certainly isn’t on going out of their way to make them suffer. And from experience it seems that going out of your way to rant and complain about this stuff tends to make it take longer to get fixed. The only exception to that seems to be a much larger community outreach.

As explainned earlier,… i did workout Bug report when it’s compatible regarding Laws of secrecy, on which France have a 50 years limit on it, after they’re published in military.

But most of the time, those same systems also needs to reach 30 years after French military stopped using it before it finally obtains the seal removed,…

So, apart ranting as i do about the most recent stuff (and for Mirage 2000-5F it’s really workable outside of military grade documents), i can’t workout Bug reports that are unfitting those requirements of unsealed documents.

Sorry, not sorry

Unfortunately for me below 10k feet the 530D seems to not be able to make it above mach 1.5 so it becomes pretty damn easy to defeat kinetically

idk how long its at mach 5 for but at some points i feel like im catching up to the missile

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