Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

I would say of you want the 530D to be more effective you have to be more discriminating on when you fire.

I rarely fire on anything over 12km and below 1,000m alt.

You have to defeat any launches on you while you close the range.

Only times I have trouble with it are when I try a long shot and they go cold or when I try to fire from higher altitude at jets that are on the deck. Otherwise pretty reliable

Not an Air RB main though

It’d be nice if the initial tracking was fixed so it doesn’t dud off the rail tho.

The thing is that the Super 530D really performs badly at low alt.
12Km under 1 000 meters is REALLY pushing it IMO.
The target has more than enouth time to either notch or get to the ground.

I would rather not fire from more than 8 Km away when at low alt.

At high alt you can push it to 20Km and the target doesn’t have much time to react.

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Where is this malice coming from? The R-27ER came too soon, that much is evident but imo is perfectly offset by only having 2 on any aircraft that can have it so far. The US will get no range and speed equivalent (ever, afaic) unless they want to add something completely classified. So what we will have to settle for is asymmetrical balance based on number of ordinance or capability… For example AIM-120 (fox-3).

And afaik the R-27ER is performing according to all known data, of which we have a pretty good idea how it should perform.

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While ER has the range, Mig-29’s radar is 49km on target.
Tho Yak-141’s radar is 82km on target.

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Is the Super 530D still handicapped by the radar or is the 2000-5F radar able to lock things too far for the missile to hit?

Mirage 2000 should have ~80km range or longer, I forget where exactly.

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Actually M2000 currently has the second longest lock range of the game with an outstanding 150km(x ray) 140+ km (radar max range when chaging range of search) of locking distance on par with Tornado ADV radar lock range and defeated by the F14 200+ km (Xray), approx 175 km of lock range (radar max range when chaging range of search).

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France needs the Mirage 4000. at least 6x Magic 2s or 2x Magic and at least 4x 530D based on a quick search.

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There was detailed info and thread on old forum but as many france related subject or should i say minor nations related threads it has not been moved on new forum, how strange.

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No the RDY tracking performance (specifically) is fine though it’s much easier to notch than when it came out
The problem is that the 530D can’t see a locked target when it obviously should be able to, causing it to explode or waste its energy.

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(correction the 7F notch is more narrow than that if it exists at all - can’t have the wannabe tom cruise and other whales miss shots because of things like skill)

Basically 530D loses energy extremely fast and it’s extremely sensitive to notching with a very short self-destruct fuze. It’s also extremely blue-shift hungry yet it’s totally blind to redshift i.e. it will go for the target with the highest velocity towards you but for very legitimate reasons (i’m sure) it literally can’t track targets flying directly away, something the AIM7 is very good at and 27ER is decent at

So in short, only shoot at lonely targets within 3-15km with their nose in the green and you could achieve an incredible Pk of about 30%.

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the problem with it, is it that is uses the rdm radar instead of rdi only if gaijin could give it a yak 141 treatment i think it could come to fill some capability gaps as a heavy fighter it could also serve as the nations 12.0 as i would imagine the 2000-5f will get moved up when mica is added as i should

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i have had very good success close range with the 530d feels like it pulls a lot more aoa than it used to but could be imagining it

With that flight model buff I’m sure Gaijin want to pigeonhole the -5F as a strong duelist and CAS jet - it would explain why they ahistorically nerfed the 530D so that it wouldn’t be “good at everything” (CAS, BVR, WVR).
Even with the ACM bug I prefer the jet with better maneuverability compared to how it was before, but it makes me think that when it does get MICA, they’ll murder its maneuverability again, or they’ll delay MICA until thrust vectoring jets are in the game.

Missiles are modeled as accurately as possible based on existing knowledge by the company.
No weapon system is intentionally nerfed.

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Is anyone else having problems with the 530D? Seems to me as of this week the hit percentage of the missile has gone down significantly with targets doing minor maneuvering.

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Yes, missile is still burning, enemy does slight maneuver, and missile misses. I’ll see if I can report it sometime soon.

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Meanwhile the AIM7 tracks through notch, chaff, cold, 5 seconds self destruct and they got fucking 6 of them lmfao
Don’t know if i’ll bother with this event if it’s just to be food for the point and clickers of US air and RU ground

I’ve only witnessed AIM-7 burn through notch, chaff, etc when it was fired from a radar that can switch to SRC mode mid-lock.

Assuming you mean non-PD, that should get fooled by chaffs