Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

i wouldnt take the second photo as given, since it lists SEM Radar (Anemone) as air-2-surface radar, and yet on the thales group site (Anemone Fire Control Radar of the Super-Étendard aircraft | Thales Group) it lists that it has a2a aswell. Anemone radar has been proven already on the issues site to have a2a yet the second source you posted, lists it as nothing more then air to surface. (Community Bug Reporting System)

It might be the case that the sources dont list all the capabilities, and only the main feature. I also would find it very weird that a radar in a plane from like 2020 or something like that would lack a2a radar mode, even if its 16nm, but there is no official sources that i know of listing that. Heard it only on other forums etc.

I would love to look up more stuff on antilope V and potentially 50 radar, but currently i only have access to an old laptop and a phone while i await for my thermal paste and pads to arrive to fix up my gpu.

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Hey.
Once Developers correct the radar, we can submit additional evidence to correct the modes if there is anything wrong.
What we know for sure is that it should not be able to guide MICA-EM, beside this RMV definitively didn’t used them either.

From what I have heard RMV does run Antilope V/50, however there is not clear evidence about Antilope 50 usage.

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What I find surprising above all is that the plane had access to IR Mica but not to a radar allowing it to fire them from further away? Especially since the Mica IR is supposed to be able to reach great distances thanks to Radar or Datalink tracking

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The MICA IR is specifically mentioned to be used in self defence for the Mirage 2000D-RMV iirc. Also, if I remember correctly, France has used their IR seekers as “poor man’s IRST”, so I kinda expect that the RMV can use the MICA IR at longer ranges thanks to it’s capability to detect and track target at probably even longer ranges than 16NM

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You remember well, but I’m not sure the Mirage can do it, it seems to me that it’s only a capability of the first Rafale (before we put a real IRST on them)

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Magic-1 was able to do it the “Poor Man’s IRST” that’s 1975 tech (would work on rear aspect up to 10km)

the later Magic-2 was much more capable in this configuration (1986)

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I didn’t knew that, thanks for the info

Yeah, a downgraded Mirage 2000 5F that RO China operates.

@vizender
Did we get evidence that MICA IR’s IRCCM is weak enough for War Thunder at this time?
Cause that’s the primary concern of players for missiles newer than R-73, Magic 2, AIM-9M, etc.


In other news, I finally decided to get the full loadout of Mirage 2000 5F:


Peak Mirage.

from the sources i had read the biggest problem is not even the IRCCM, the real problem is that the missile could be fired via radar and/or datalink at the same range as the EM version, but instead of activating its radar in the terminal phase, the missile would activate its IR tracker, making it an invisible missile that can hit targets at very high distances

But in real combat situation, the MICA IR would only be used at short range.

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i wish 5f didnt had so much a2g so the addition of m2kd would have more sense D:

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We know that the MICA IRCCM is more potent (or at the very least as potent) than that of the Magic 2 (which is still underperforming). We also know that the MICA IR can act as a fox 3 with early datalink guidance and final pitbull lock. so potentially, a MICA IR would not have to lock above 9km and in that range, might be deflatable in game (but only if you know it’s coming for you)

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Mirage 2000DR1 is such a low BR I removed my non-air A2G loadouts entirely.
Just sim and air RB air to ground loadouts now.

@vizender
I think Gaijin needs to work on flares and smoke options for modern vehicles.
Flares for aircraft, smoke for ground vehicles.
Cause a lot of weapons are locked behind how flares/smoke function currently.

when i said addition of m2kd i had m2kd rmv specifically in mind, mb
the D R1 makes sense for a2g since its low in air sim, and you can pare it with m2kC S5

In air battle, once the Mica EM will be removed from the RMV, the R1 and RMV will have almost the same BR and if the radar is modeled correctly, I imagine the R1 will even drop slightly in Br

Depends on the aircraft.^^

The update would be faster, I can’t wait for the mirage 2000 5ei grind

I would not see the R1 much lower tho. The F1C is at the same BR and is not as potent imo, due to the FM and all other missiles than the Magic 2 being hot trash. Magic 2 are really excellent at this BR, and gives almost always 2 kills in the R1 in air battles. We could also expect better weaponry (even maybe AASM if devs really want to differentiate R1 and RMV) which would inevitably increase the BR of the plane to I would guess 11.7 at most.
11.3 is still a great BR for the D variants
Also, even with a radar nerf, it’s not like we need a good radar in the first place in the M2KDs

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Personally, I guess gajin might considered MICA IR replace MICA EM on Mirage 2000D RMV but before Mirage 2000-5F

Gajin increase max BR to 14.0 or 14.3 for Mirage 2000-5F before add MICA IR (instead Matra Super 530F & 530D)

Sadly, now nobody made TALIOS (Targeting Long Range Identification Optronic System) suggestion.

I really don’t think the Mica IRs will arrive anytime soon, the Tornado Gr4 would have had access to its good missiles otherwise.

Apart from that the Talios has been reported

[dev]Mirage 2000D RMV should be equipped with TALIOS targeting p // Gaijin.net // Issues

MICA IR isn’t coming soon (trust me bro). The devs are looking at implementing some stuff on the RMV, but MICA IR is actually out of the equation

Reported internally and externally as well did not see that one