Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

You remember well, but I’m not sure the Mirage can do it, it seems to me that it’s only a capability of the first Rafale (before we put a real IRST on them)

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Magic-1 was able to do it the “Poor Man’s IRST” that’s 1975 tech (would work on rear aspect up to 10km)

the later Magic-2 was much more capable in this configuration (1986)

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I didn’t knew that, thanks for the info

Yeah, a downgraded Mirage 2000 5F that RO China operates.

@vizender
Did we get evidence that MICA IR’s IRCCM is weak enough for War Thunder at this time?
Cause that’s the primary concern of players for missiles newer than R-73, Magic 2, AIM-9M, etc.


In other news, I finally decided to get the full loadout of Mirage 2000 5F:


Peak Mirage.

from the sources i had read the biggest problem is not even the IRCCM, the real problem is that the missile could be fired via radar and/or datalink at the same range as the EM version, but instead of activating its radar in the terminal phase, the missile would activate its IR tracker, making it an invisible missile that can hit targets at very high distances

But in real combat situation, the MICA IR would only be used at short range.

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i wish 5f didnt had so much a2g so the addition of m2kd would have more sense D:

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We know that the MICA IRCCM is more potent (or at the very least as potent) than that of the Magic 2 (which is still underperforming). We also know that the MICA IR can act as a fox 3 with early datalink guidance and final pitbull lock. so potentially, a MICA IR would not have to lock above 9km and in that range, might be deflatable in game (but only if you know it’s coming for you)

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Mirage 2000DR1 is such a low BR I removed my non-air A2G loadouts entirely.
Just sim and air RB air to ground loadouts now.

@vizender
I think Gaijin needs to work on flares and smoke options for modern vehicles.
Flares for aircraft, smoke for ground vehicles.
Cause a lot of weapons are locked behind how flares/smoke function currently.

when i said addition of m2kd i had m2kd rmv specifically in mind, mb
the D R1 makes sense for a2g since its low in air sim, and you can pare it with m2kC S5

In air battle, once the Mica EM will be removed from the RMV, the R1 and RMV will have almost the same BR and if the radar is modeled correctly, I imagine the R1 will even drop slightly in Br

Depends on the aircraft.^^

The update would be faster, I can’t wait for the mirage 2000 5ei grind

I would not see the R1 much lower tho. The F1C is at the same BR and is not as potent imo, due to the FM and all other missiles than the Magic 2 being hot trash. Magic 2 are really excellent at this BR, and gives almost always 2 kills in the R1 in air battles. We could also expect better weaponry (even maybe AASM if devs really want to differentiate R1 and RMV) which would inevitably increase the BR of the plane to I would guess 11.7 at most.
11.3 is still a great BR for the D variants
Also, even with a radar nerf, it’s not like we need a good radar in the first place in the M2KDs

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Personally, I guess gajin might considered MICA IR replace MICA EM on Mirage 2000D RMV but before Mirage 2000-5F

Gajin increase max BR to 14.0 or 14.3 for Mirage 2000-5F before add MICA IR (instead Matra Super 530F & 530D)

Sadly, now nobody made TALIOS (Targeting Long Range Identification Optronic System) suggestion.

I really don’t think the Mica IRs will arrive anytime soon, the Tornado Gr4 would have had access to its good missiles otherwise.

Apart from that the Talios has been reported

[dev]Mirage 2000D RMV should be equipped with TALIOS targeting p // Gaijin.net // Issues

MICA IR isn’t coming soon (trust me bro). The devs are looking at implementing some stuff on the RMV, but MICA IR is actually out of the equation

Reported internally and externally as well did not see that one

even maybe AASM if devs really want to differentiate R1 and RMV

With the Epav’s, new Gunpod, thalios, ground radar (hopefully with a2a capability), More pylons for guided bombs (AuF1) and windows 7 to support all that, i think they will be different enough. no need to give AASM to the plane that never carried it.

Just fyi it is AUF2, and it is supported by every Mirage 2000, it is not something exclusive to the Mirage 2000D-RMV

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Shhhh. Don’t say it like that. Also I think devs should still be considering it, since half of the reports (ground radar, more pylons, some of the armement) is also retroactive to the R1

AUF2

sorri i Mistak the SPG with a bomb pylon because french is not my stronk suit sowwi :c