Mirage F1 is probably the best grinder in the French tech tree, and one of the best in game as of now. Just use the 2 magic 2s, and if you feel fancy, bring the other 2 IR missiles. Don’t bother with SARH missiles unless in sim. Or take a full bomb load and destroy 1 and a half base with 2 magic 2s to spare.
The plane is also pretty good in air to air engagement and can fight even in dogfights. I’d go even further and say I’d prefer the F1C over a Mig 23, despite having less missiles. Managing the energy of the mirage well, you can energy trap many, if not most aircrafts at your battle rating.
Milan is also very good, although I don’t have it, it’s actually at a pretty decent BR despite not having flares.
Then, the Mirage 5f is pretty okay, and I’d say the Belgium one with flare might be a pretty good grinder as well, although, not having it unlocked yet, I can’t be to sure about this
Milan basically outspeeds anything to go bombing in it’s matchmakings but as the First iterations of Mirage IV your bombing trip is a one way trip to your demise and then retry.
I have been doing fine with the full air to air loadout in the Mirage F1.The Super 530s can be nice against afk people or those who didn’t bring chaff. One of my best purchases ever, very fun. Also Magic 2 is unreal.
Is Mirage 2k 5f competitive in terms of flight perfomance at top tier? Also im currently playing c-s5 and wanted to ask how should i fight f16s and f15s? I usually just try to slow down to around 500-800 km/h and cut inside their turning circle and it usually works but im not sure if thats the best strategy
I have the Mirage-2000C4 and they are basically the same I think. The mirage-2000 maintains speed extremely well, especially compared to something like Su-27 that dumps all speed in 1-2 turns
People have poor skill levels when it comes to dogfights in general, the mirage is pretty competitive due to its great (albeit strange, feels a bit like a UFO) energy retention, you can keep it for a long time, making you quite dangerous, F16 blk 10 ans F-15A wrecks you, and F-15C loses to you, block 15 and block 50 can kill you with ease if they somehow know what they’re doing.
Don’t refer to most of your dogfights in ARB as being representative of most matchups you will face. As I stated, people are really bad in duels.
I think a fight against a block 50 is much closer than that. At equal skills, guns only, the f16c will take ages to get its position, to much for a war thunder match with 15 other players to not come and steal a kill.
With missiles, the mirage 2000 can make quite indecent offbore shots against a f16 with the magic 2, while the aim9m is more limited in dogfight ranges
I’m mainly talking about guns only duels, but yes I can understand your point, nonetheless, the F16 is a UFO and even the C can slap the mirage out of the air without too much trouble, especially since it got a hard nerf at low speed.
Ofc I’m talking at equal skill level, which is… almost non existent
Currently in a vertical launch situation, the MICA missile is only capable of doing Mach 2.54 when it should be able to do Mach 3. Also, at 13km away, the MICA missile drops to a speed of about Mach 0.84, when it should be ~Mach 1.25. This shows that the missile is missing roughly Mach 0.4-0.5 in speed. Further reduction of drag may be necessary.
I have to say I haven’t played much since the update (as you can see on my profile lol), with a few games in the M2K and no dogfights so I really don’t know how the mirage 2000 handles against f16s at low speed.
Thanks for the info. I was expecting that the better energy retention at higher speed would actually benefit the M2K against a f16 more than the nerf at lower speed would impact it.
Anyway, the mirage 2000 is still good enough in about every metric, from FM to armement that I still consider it one of the best jet in game, better than the su27sm, all the f16s, and on par with the f15c. But that’s a completely personal (and biased) opinion
As i understood it’s fixed at least for the count for most mirage just we have big countermeasures that is why there are fewer, tho still mirage 4000 missing a lot, except if they changed really recently