Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

How come the RDM-3 is now locking chaff and ignoring targets as much as possible ?
Is it scuffed because of the automatic mode selection ? Or was it that much of a threat to F-15s that it needed a nerf ?

Its a bug affecting every radar’s ACM mode. There’s a report out for it and there’s nothing we can do but wait.

Those were what I was referencing in this post - they seem to be in the spots where the MICA pylons go, but they’re not the full model.

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Trying something again : M4K underperforms in acceleration

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/s7r7kmFshN2u

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Performing an acceleration test with fixed fuel isn’t representative of real testing. The aircraft in your source would be getting lighter throughout the climb where as your test has a fixed weight throughout.

I have only 1 question. Why Mirage 200d1 cant carry unguided bombs like 1000lbs or SAMP 400kg? The top tier french attacker is underpowered, only 250kg bomb. Not realist and also very frustating.

anyone have reported that? No SAMP 400KG or 1000lbs USA on Mirage 2000D1? i see only report for laser bomb.

cmon see that? only 500lbs? Is ridiculus

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Thanks for your input, I’m updating my report!

It’s a massive issue when we think about it : 15% worse time despite having around 10 to 15% more thrust.
it explain how odd the 4000 feel to fly compared to the 2000 : despite having a better TWR than the 2000, the acceleration is barely better below mach 1 and even worse than the 2000 after mach 1.

The question is : why it behave like this ? maybe the drag is too high ?

Drag 100% is too high yes. Weird thing is devs usually don’t like to tweak the drag parameters and only look at engine performance, which is a shame as delta wing’s main advantage is supersonic drag.

Comparison to the M2K might be unfair, as drag coeffcient isn’t just proportionnate to the aircraft’s size + the M2K might be overperforming.

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As far as i remember, they’ve just put twice the drag of the 2000 for the 4000.

That’s what’s in the datamine ? Haven’t heard about that before.

If it was the case, M2K and M4K should virtually have the exact same acceleration performance though, M4K would be even better than the M2K because of the T/W ratio.

Yeah, it’s a shame that M4K can’t reach it rip speed, I always love M2K can reach rip speed so you can outrun most jet on the long run. But in the M4K it’s just like an F-15 with Higher BR and no HMD.

Well, maybe something like that. Due to M2K always get an update since 2022, I must say (in my humble opinion) it is one of my favourite aircraft because it makes M2K always fresh in terms of gameplay, unlike Phantom FGR.2 (which was my most played aircraft) that just stuck in 11.3 since the introduction of BR 11.3.

finally found how to use the bot of Defyn discord ^^ this is the drag for some of the top tier planes

contrary to what i remembered, in fact the 4000 has more than twice the drag of the 2000 at high speed

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I hope this goes through, unlocking the M4K was a real disappointment… I have no idea what it’s actual performance should be but I surely wasn’t expecting M2K but heavy™

As you can also see here, the Mirage 2000 out accelerate the 4000 at high speed

Given theses data, we can see that it’s because of the drag of the 4000 that is increasing faster than the drag of the 2000 at high speed, that’s why the 2000 feel better than the 4000 in this area

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For me it’s just F-15 with Higher BR and worse missile, but I was wrong on its performance because “at least” from @Hannut59267 , M4K has lower drag than F-15 lol. I guess M4K just got powercrept in full uptier due to its missile can’t compete with R-73 spam, also no HMD lmao.

@BigStuntmanMike We have no current proof of any bigger dumb bombs being used on the Mirage 2000D besides the current 250kg bombs in the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955829235493273680/1224131681309691990/Loadouts.png?ex=661c6078&is=6609eb78&hm=62ce7570ec62eb3fe85d0c4e162a3ce32f2be4f5fcbde62da4ff1dcb1f665399&

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