Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

How do Python 4s have longer range?

Aim-9Ls have a range of 18km.
Python 3 & 4’s range is 15km.

That range is a bit understated, the Python 4 uses a much stronger motor. There’s a reason why they made a Fox-3 based on the Python 4

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The Derby missile is physically larger & has far more fuel than the Python 4.

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That’s true but it’s also heavier. Don’t forget that the Python 4 is still in active service so its actual performance isn’t accurate to what sites like Wikipedia might say

I’m not using Wikipedia personally.
On top of that, Aim-9M is in active service along with AAM-3, and a whole host of other older missiles, because they’re more affordable.

We’ll just have to wait and see how those missiles are implemented in game

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The Python 3 and AIM-9L have approximately the same range but the AIM-9L is slower over the course of distance traveled in war thunder iirc. Both in-game share the same seeker as well.

The AIM-9L and Python 3 are the same in war thunder for the most part aside the acceleration and maximum overload (which is hardly ever necessary).

How much stronger could the motor be? The Python 3 and 4 do not differ much in terms of year of introduction that I could find. It also seems that the two missiles are the same in weight, and also that the Python 4 has a higher drag design nullifying some advantages in motor tech. So I’d have to see once it comes what the range difference is.

Python 4 should have a better flight computer that eliminates the shaking mid flight giving it a longer range than the Python 3 with a 15-18km high probability of kill range

Removal of oscillations would only give about maybe 1 km of extra range i would assume. In-game missile shaking in mid flight occurs in the last 1-2km of a missile’s flight.

All missiles in game generally have a considerable amount of shake

Even when the missile has plenty of energy? Show?

Heres a video from Mig23M testing the Skyflash SuperTEMPs max rear range at altitude in a straight line.

Where’s the missile shaking?

Try firing the missile at lower altitude at a target that isn’t moving perfectly straight

The shaking is caused by PID loop or whatever else, sure it might improve but it’s not going to eliminate the winding the missile does. The only time this would matter is at ranges you’d never consider firing the missile regardless.

At the ranges where the Python 4 might benefit (hardly) from an improvement in guidance target would easily evade the missile from maneuvers.

Can we please have IR resistance of the Magic 2 back at least ? The plane’s weapons are utterly useless at the moment it’s insane

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I doubt it’s ever going to happen. War Thunder players know nothing other than rushing to the middle and spamming IR missiles and if it gets flare resistance they are going to cry that it is overpowered

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It never had IR resistance, though we have proven via public sources that it should have IRCCM greater than that of the R-73.

They will be forced to give the magic 2 IRCCM in the future, existing aircraft with magic 2 that will overperform will likely be reduced to the magic 1.

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Don’t forget that they also have to fix its guidance and overload

What is wrong with the guidance? The overload is a conscious decision to not permit the 50G currently.