Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

No I did not, thanks for the catch.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/869212849757634560/1147326673063247872/0bfb6b4cac3c9bbf4c42e92bcb28ebf6e756ecbd.png
Also, very nice. They’re comparing AIM-9M with AIM-120A vs R-77 and addition of R-73. Meanwhile Magic 2 still doesn’t have IRCCM and no off-bore sight capability for M2K yet.

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the missiles feel a lot different like magic 2 pulls sooner idk could be speed ill have to test it

conclusion it was speed :(

Any idea why the M2kC still hasn’t received a drop tank? Did it carry a different one or is Gaijin trying to make the 5F as „special” as possible until it gets some unique a2a weapons? lol

its in the files just never added but its the same tank as the other 2 m2ks

We now have a primary source that the Magic 2 should have IRCCM according to a book sold by the French Navy. Ignore the “Restricted Distribution” label as the book is found in the national archives:

https://forum.warthunder.com/t/fix-the-mirage-2000-5f/22300/9

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Will try to do a kind of complete post with what is wrong with mirage 2000-5F might actually get some visibility as a lot of people will probably blame and shout at me for saying the Mirage 2000 is not competitive while their pretty F16C lacks what 3 features, four maybe? This “hate” should give it some of the visibility it needs(a little)

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Good idea, I’ll do a lot more comprehensive post with links to all the reports tonight.

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Seriously this R73 crap without even adding the AIM9-M to compensate stay in the middle of my throat. How the fuck are they making their calculation to get to the conclusion “OH R73 on the SU25 BAZ still brings suffering to the game and even if flarable just take you by surprise by how agile this crap is but anyway lets put it on a brand new fighter with new long range almost hypersonic IR missiles with an IRCCM to complete this crapsterpiece”

I mean gaijin could show them France’s almost hyper sonic bvr ir missile with irccm missile :) only two of them of obviously :)

I don’t quite get what IR missile you’re talking about rn

Mace is talking about MICA IR. Mirage 2000-5F can carry 6x MICA IR instead of just 2 however.

Can carry 6x MICA IR for long range BVR stealth kills ;))

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/873989469924122624/1115091825783472138/Screenshot_20230604_203639_Drive.jpg

There are photos of MICA IR on non-wingtip pylons

This photo shows 5x MICA IR + 1 MICA EM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956199388424851477/1053774544080486501/mirage_2000_sirpa_air.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956199388424851477/1057668226324115606/deux-mirage-2000-5-sur-la-base-de-dijon-avant-de-decoller-pour-une-mission-en-libye-photo-reuters-1418360426.jpg

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i know it can carry six but i don’t wanna piss off every other nation

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Well,… they do not have your honor in things like that…

US has Aim7R , dont know about japan or others though

First of:
AIM-7R never seen production → budget were cancelled.

So i’m not sure that kind of missiles would enter the game.

Secondly:
I don’t see how general missiles talk can relate on having the honor to not be willing to have better missile technology over every other nations,…

Well , it is not like R-27ET was ever used in a mission ( like 90% of russian missiles or tech)or R-27ER ever mounted on a Mig 29
What is going to eeduce them to be cancelled project as they were desperate attempts to not die after soviet collapse

R-27ET entered service 1990 aslongside the R-27ER, which AIM-7R NEVER DID,… see the difference ?

And if considering usage IRL to be in game, then only R-27R can be added to the game, as none other misilles variant were ever used in combat,…

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But… why would that matter? The 7R is not a prototype, its not a technical drawing or a vague set of specifications. Its a missile that was manufactured in some numbers and was tested extensively. Only difference between it and the R-27EXs is the numbers produced and a checkmark in the “In service?” field