From what I know, the 2000D RMV radar would have access to the following modes (using the radar modes already present in game)
Air Air: Src and TWS with a range of 16nm (range of the Antelope 5 but someone had pointed out to me earlier that the plane would use the Antelope 50 with improved air-to-air capabilities)
Air Ground: TWS GMTI (the radar has a target detection and distance measurement system, I suppose this is the closest thing to it)
After these modes, the radar allows many other things IRL but which are either not modeled or not useful in game
It should be noted that air ground radars are no longer a Russian exclusive because the new F15Es are equipped with them.
absolutely not, my knowledge and sources on the 2000D RMV unfortunately stop at its armament. We would have to go back into the discussion to see who talked about it.
to admit everything I don’t even know in which topic we discussed it
On the other hand, do you know if the information on the modes that I gave on the Antelope 5 above is the right one? This is information that I got via forums or unofficial sources so I am not 100% sure of its accuracy.
To put it simply there is now a small vapor stream on the wings in addition to the already existing Canard Vapor effect. It’s hard to see so better either test yourself or wait for the update.
@WaretaGarasu I have just made 2 new bug reports on weapons that are missing from the Mirage 2000D RMV (these weapons are generally missing from all Mirage 2000C and D). These weapons are the predecessors of the BAT-120LG which has already been reported. I think the BAT-120 can be considered a cluster bomb and would therefore not be added to the game but the BAP-100 is more of an armor piercing rocket/armor piercing bomb with an explosive charge.
The AASMs were tested on a modified Mirage 2000N. In reality the 2000Ds never touched it. Afterwards it’s a choice of the devs, the missiles are “qualified” on Mirage 2000 so they could in theory add them
I don’t think this armement is out of the question. The RMV is factually the most modern attack version of the Mirage 2000D, so considering the AASM is qualified on the 2000D, it would not be out of the question for the game to add them as a top of the line weaponry on the RMV exclusively
Normally an air-to-air mode is present on this radar.
According to the book “L’Armée de l’air, des avions et des hommes” published in 1992 (published by the Air Force Information and Public Relations Service), the Antilope 5 has 6 modes of operation :
Terrain Following (suivi de terrain), the radar sees up to 7 nm in front of the plane, allowing a 600kt speed at 200ft
Ground Mapping (cartographie), enables two submodes: VISUSOL gives a 160° (+/- 80°) map with 1/250,000 or 1/1,000,000 scales, while RESOL enables to magnify a part of the map from 2 to 50 times
Terrain Following + Ground Mapping (mode entrelacé)
Ground Target Ranging (télémétrie), effective range 8nm
Air-to-air (air-air), range 16nm, 160° wide sweeping, BoreSight and Slew submodes possible
Air-to-sea (air-surface), comparable to Ground Mapping
According to the book “Rafale en Afghanistan” published in 2009 :
(Translated from French) “On Mirage 2000N, a take-off followed by a “trail” climb at 30 seconds (the planes follow each other at 30 seconds in a formation that looks like a snake), required some experience given the low air-to-air capabilities of the Antelope radar”
The aircraft does have an air-to-air capability but limited (16nm in 1992), however the Antelope is updated regularly and should “see” a step further than 30 years ago
i wouldnt take the second photo as given, since it lists SEM Radar (Anemone) as air-2-surface radar, and yet on the thales group site (Anemone Fire Control Radar of the Super-Étendard aircraft | Thales Group) it lists that it has a2a aswell. Anemone radar has been proven already on the issues site to have a2a yet the second source you posted, lists it as nothing more then air to surface. (Community Bug Reporting System)
It might be the case that the sources dont list all the capabilities, and only the main feature. I also would find it very weird that a radar in a plane from like 2020 or something like that would lack a2a radar mode, even if its 16nm, but there is no official sources that i know of listing that. Heard it only on other forums etc.
I would love to look up more stuff on antilope V and potentially 50 radar, but currently i only have access to an old laptop and a phone while i await for my thermal paste and pads to arrive to fix up my gpu.
Hey.
Once Developers correct the radar, we can submit additional evidence to correct the modes if there is anything wrong.
What we know for sure is that it should not be able to guide MICA-EM, beside this RMV definitively didn’t used them either.
From what I have heard RMV does run Antilope V/50, however there is not clear evidence about Antilope 50 usage.
What I find surprising above all is that the plane had access to IR Mica but not to a radar allowing it to fire them from further away? Especially since the Mica IR is supposed to be able to reach great distances thanks to Radar or Datalink tracking
The MICA IR is specifically mentioned to be used in self defence for the Mirage 2000D-RMV iirc. Also, if I remember correctly, France has used their IR seekers as “poor man’s IRST”, so I kinda expect that the RMV can use the MICA IR at longer ranges thanks to it’s capability to detect and track target at probably even longer ranges than 16NM
You remember well, but I’m not sure the Mirage can do it, it seems to me that it’s only a capability of the first Rafale (before we put a real IRST on them)
Yeah, a downgraded Mirage 2000 5F that RO China operates.
@vizender
Did we get evidence that MICA IR’s IRCCM is weak enough for War Thunder at this time?
Cause that’s the primary concern of players for missiles newer than R-73, Magic 2, AIM-9M, etc.
In other news, I finally decided to get the full loadout of Mirage 2000 5F:
