That too if they don’t lock MICA IR behind Rafale, so imo, the Mirage 2000-5F hasn’t unlocked more than half of its potential still.
I think though, that they’ll reserve MICA IR for Rafale, they’ll also likely reserve ASRAAM for Eurofighter and not Tornado. So IIR missiles locked behind new airframes.
I personally would like to see Mirage F1 have its Magic 2s removed and dropped down to 10.7, and then Mirage 2000C-S3 upgrade added at 11.3 with Super 530D and Magic 1.
would be real sad Mirage F.1 then,… and no please,…
At 10.7, the Mirage F1 airframe would be a very competitive dogfighter. Right now, the missiles (Magic 2) puts it in a BR where the airframe is outdated.
Consider that part of the reason developers have still not buffed the Magic 2 is because the missile is on the Mirage F1 airframe, and they wish to keep it at 11.3. Removing the Magic 2 from Mirage F1 would allow for the Magic 2s to be buffed without consideration of balance. Otherwise more buffs would mean the Mirage F1 overtiered to 11.7+
“Cough-cough” - No,… it is NOT a dogfighter,…
everything in 10.7 is already more capable dogfighter than Mirage F.1
if it does goes by Magic-1 (which is only have 2) then it is as good as mirage 3’s in effectiveness.
R.530 IR of S.530F may help a bit (and i’m still doubting about it).
but Mirage F.1 is not a Dogfighter. (even F-4C would beat it on deck,…)
EDIT Statcard of both F-4C (26 seconds) and F.1C (27 seconds) and both are fully modified.
Mirage F1 still has better SARHs than Mirage 3s. It can also use 4 missiles compared to 3 on the Mirage 3. Further, the Mirage F1 has a lower stall speed than Mirage 3s and can use that effectively in dogfighting. Mirage F1 also has a great topspeed.
But the biggest consideration is that it needs to have Magic 2s removed so Magic 2s can be reserved for the Mirage 2000 platform and be buffed.
5 and i would prefer to rely on R.530 IR than those S.530F
Super 530F would be better at 10.7 than 11.3 where chaff is common.
Maybe for the Mirage F1C, but for the F1CT i think it would be great to keep it with Magic 2, to allow theses two to be a bit more unique to each other, especially given the fact that it’s a latter upgrade.
However for the F1C-200 i think it’s unlikely, given the fact it’s a premium plane, but i’m also open to that.
Another solution to still have a Mirage F1 with magic 2 while getting some of them with Magic 1 would be to add the F1 MF2000.
I would be more than fine with this as it has MICA EM as well and so it would be a good future premium or even event plane.
personally i’m hoping for it to come in the tree, after the F1CT, because it’s really unique and getting it locked behind that kind of paywall would be sad
chaff are quite common at 10.7 actually → F-8E and MiG-21’s does use AIM-9C / R-3R quite often, and some F-4C are still fighting on lower range BR (i’m not counting on AIM-7C from F3H-2 at 9.3)
even the swedish A32 only does have a Chaff ability (being 9.0 BR)
tbh, R.530 IR still better than S.530F that can’t LD/SD with F.1 radar.
I expect gaijin recall Magic II with IRCCM → Magic II Mk.2 on Mirage F1CT, Mirage 2000C-S4, Mirage 2000C-S5, Mirage 2000-5F & Mirage 2000D-R1 this quarter
the F1-M2000 is a Morrocan aircraft, and can’t be TT approved as it would be the only unique addition of that nation.
furthermore, the modification was done through a french private society and not the DGA
C-S4 only if it goes to 12.0 with C-S5
@DirectSupport :
is it normal that Mirage 2000-5F feel sluggish on acceleration compared to Mirage 2000C-S4?
i’ve seen recently that i’m beaten in speed by those event aircrafts
Mirage F1 MF2000 from Royal Moroccan Air Force (RMAF) would be event vehicle or premium pre-order pack to rank 8 at 12.3 or 12.7 BR in france ? or for future Royal Moroccan own tree ?
more like 12.0/12.3 as premium always are lower than TT variant with same missile (here the MICA)
and that far superior airframe of Mirage 2000-5F would get up to 12.3/12.7 with those missiles
There is no difference in flight performance, it could be that those S4 don’t have radar missiles equipped or they took lower fuel than you. Even 20min fuel is enough for EC maps.