Mirage 2000 Thread : Variants, performance, characteristics and sources

And what does that have to do with anything? Light vs heavy fighter means little to nothing outside of specific contexts. F-15 is a very capable dogfighter if you’re trying to insinuate something with the term heavy fighter.

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the size my guy.
its like saying the gripen should get meteors because the f-15 can carry twice as many amraams.
it just makes no sense to compare the two

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There’s nothing wrong with that either if F-15 is carrying a bunch of AIM-120Ds*. Planes that carry less amount of missiles tend to get better quality of missiles. It is why the Mirage 2000C got all-aspect IR missiles before anyone else (Magic 2s). It was still balanced despite quality vs quantity (Only 4 missiles on Mirage 2000C).

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Yet no evidence for any of these claims you keep making. Whatever, enough drama

No aircraft is getting advanced fox 3s right away. The R77 and the AMRAAM will be the most common both in quantity on the airplanes and for how many airplanes share these weapons. It will be interesting to see how gaijin wants to balance things but the F15 can use up to 8 AMRAAMS and the later Su27s can use a similar amount. Having 4 or 6 MICA might be something they’re intending or it might not.

You made claims it should be using more than 4 S.530D earlier this month,… prove me how you can claim this?

What in the world is making you able to claim M4K having more than 4 s.530D by using centerline pylon aswell as Wing pylon?

You never answered that, never,… and yet i’m basing myself on 1 chart (and not mashing them up together), aswell as other informations coming from manuals, specialized magazines,… ect.

So please gimme your unique source saying this is possible?
The M4K went through SEVERAL modifications through the years,… therefore YOU CAN’T MASH-UP those charts.

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Never affirmed that it’s possible, only that it’s plausible. Far too nuanced I’m sure.

Community Bug Reporting System they marked the mirage 4000 acceleration as fixed has anyone tested it or is it coming tomorrow

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Also, Meteor is probably even more of a gap from the MICA than the MICA is to early AMRAAMS. And both the gripen and mirage are light fighters.
I would think that AIM120D equivalent for light aircrafts (to which the MICA might be comparable, with different strengths), while heavy fighter would be receiving earlier C variants equivalents would make a lot of sense to me

That change was implemented before the live update. Another one should come soon because of another report.

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So I have tested in Test Flight, it still can’t reach its rip speed at sea level

However, at altitude, the aircraft now accelerate much better although as not fast as M2K

Thanks @Zayf I hope more of your report will be labeled as fixed by Gaijin.

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I decided to compare the stable turn time of all new aircraft (hold S and wait for the speed to stabilize). After the nerf to Jas39, mirage 4000 looks very good. But in WTRTI the angular velocity jumps from 16.5 to 18.5deg/s. I think the real value will be somewhere in between. Also on the right I indicated the angular density and overload when turning at a speed of 1000 km/h. Unfortunately, I was unable to make more than 10G…
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@RideR2 is diligently at work doing sustained turn rate charts for all the new top tiers here.

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I know this is besides your point, but the first fighter to receive high performing all aspect IR missiles was the Italians in the F-104S ASA.

But same principle and for same reasoning to your point.

Anyway. I screwed up not getting the 4k first. I love this jet and they put in the Desert camo?! You did not remind me!?!

I thought it was possible to carry more flares on this thing. Bel can it or nah? Thats my only complaint so far.

Other than that, I actually like the lack of HMD. Since the jet already has the nose authority to put a nose on a target it becomes a hinderance.

Unfortunatley for Gaijin convenience Mirage 4000 is going to be the first plane to suffer the “waiting till the separate flare/chaff compartments” are added. Meaning that Flare ammount of Mirage 4000 is technically correct as you can count 112 cartridges in the flare compartments (Bottom of CM Pods) the rest of CMs, which are only chaffs; will be added later when Chaff/Falre separate drop is added. And technically that means waiting until Fox3 so either in 3 or 6 months. For now 112 CMs is final.

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Thanks for the info! Makes sense.

Have not been following much on the 4k are we missing anything else in terms of flight performance? I do feel acceleration can be a little better. But that’s just me.

Ah, that’s correct.

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20 Minutes of fuel with 8x Matra Magics. Pulling no Gs or whatsover, rolling the aircraft above mach 1 causues one of the wings to declare its independence and flyoff. can you guys also replicate the issue? Could be placebo but i don’t remember this happening two to three days ago…

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