at 06:05, the silhouettes of cars are clearly visible at the bottom left. Apparently, in this case, not the largest zoom was used. Overall, the image is sharper and more contrasty, with more detail than what was previously seen in the game in previous versions, even if the details of the vehicles themselves are still hard to discern. Again, in my opinion, if the video was recorded in better quality, the image would also be clearer. In my opinion, the current level of CLDP IR imaging is quite consistent with this video. I hope the developers don’t ruin this, because… Mirage still doesn’t have any imbalanced assault potential for 11.3.
4 days ago I took measurements using wtrti and according to my data, F1 loses in a stable turn to F4 FG1, MiG23, 2000D and is quite a bit better than F4S.
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on the left - without flaps, in the middle - the first flap position, on the right - maximum speed.
from top to bottom: F1, 23ML, F4S, F4 FG, 2000D
I’m surprised the M23 is a better sustained turn rate than the 2000D. I would have expected the FBW, high trust and leading edge slats to outperform the M23
you guys should remember , every plane has a speed for rate fight , in F-16 you can rate fight everybody with impunity and win every time and they can do nothing
I’m not available at this moment, I can do the testing later and record the sustained rates. I suspect the F-16 beats the MiG-23ML, I just won’t take people’s word on such things anymore.
It was interesting to find out the 9-12 is worse than the MiG-23 in STR.
didn’t the mirage out rate almost everything for some reason, for a while with full real controls think that was before the f16 got its g limiter removed
No, the DCS M2K out-rates every Gen4 fighter in that game though. Maybe that’s what you were thinking about.
When people pointed out how absurd that is they claim “SME Feedback and known data points” as their source. Simply not feasible. The M2K in War Thunder is still decent in sustained turn, just not the king.
Yes, Gaijin has acknowledged the issue but doesn’t want to fix it. They think properly modeling the instability would brick mouse aim… and refuse to fix the excessive AoA or stability.
The core problem with Warthunder’s control is that to make the game simpler to play, the players are babysits when using the mouse control. That means that the planes will only fly in their flight enveloped to the best of their abilities. By definition, it does exactly what a FBW should do, so the advantages of FBW of the Mirage 2000 is negated. Then, Delta wings in general are vastly underperforming compared to swept wings as they have most of the disadvantages (High bleed speed), not not really the advantages (AOA is more limited on Delta wings than swept wings). That’s why things like the M23 and F16 are so vastly over performing when facing things like the M2K or Mig29.
At least that’s my personal opinion.
