Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

Mig-29 with about 50% fuel
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SU-27 at 21,400 kg

At 500 kph IAS (.4 Mach sea level)

MiG-29 pulls 5G

Flanker pulls 6G

you are not understand what this chart means

keep insulting ppl it shows how right you are

Su-27


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Mig-29
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flanker can sustain 9Gs at 775kph at 1000m alt
Mig-29 sustains 9Gs at ~850kph at 1000m alt

flanker can sustain 2.5Gs at 300kph at 1000m alt
the Mig-29 can sustain sustain 2Gs 300kph at 1000m alt

flanker can pull 8Gs ITR at mach 0.5
the Mig-29 can pull 7Gs ITR at mach 0.5

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this is not showing the Cl

data is also wrong

no, it cant. flanker max g load with 20000 mass is 8.55g
this curve is fantasy

idk the mass there, probably 20000
with mass 19000kg it will sustain 9g at 816kmh,

851 kmh in normal mode and 821kmh in war mode

and this is all calculated graphs for both, the real mig can sustain 9g at lower speeds

as i said su27 has slighty advantage at this speed range, it has more Mz but mig still have smaller turn radius because it has more TWR

so its an absolutly irrelevant graph

man if there was only a graph with known fuel loads

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Good thing I didn’t own this pfp:
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this graph is dogshit, the max g load with 20000kg mass is 8.5g, not 8g as here
this graph says the max su27 g load is 8g, this mean mig29 is better at all speeds more than 750kmh

ah yes going faster than 750 kph means you pull more Gs
and the STR graph is totally not going further than 8Gs in the Su-27SK manual

and the su-27 is totally not able to sustain 9Gs
oh wait another page from the document you posted says it is
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and its totally not like th Su-27 had a soft limiter like the Mig-29 so it couldnt exceed 8Gs at all

and having to go to a higher speed to pull the same Gs is actually a good thing

the mass is 22.8 tons
a whole 2.8 tons heavier than you said
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yes its not

only at low fuel mass

from the very same document you got your graph from

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are you braind?
you cant even read a graph correctly

AND AS I SAY, THIS IS CALCULATED DATA, THIS DATA IS NOT TRUE FOR BOTH OF THEM

no, its not. according to this graph

max g load with 22.8t mass will be 7.83 at 820 kmh, when the graph shows 8.5

you keep making statments without sources

and whenever someone brings a source contradicting your opinions you start throwing around insults

even then the mig-29 is worse than the flanker

and your source is that you made it up idc
the graph shows clearly the the Su-27 perfoms better than the mig-29

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this graphs is not true and outdated

reason?

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