Your Russian friends have misinterpreted a few dive recovery charts in order to attempt to artificially buff lift.
Flanker is a prime example
This is the lift of the flanker at its 25 degrees AOA limit this is its final value
This is a dive recovery and slant angle chart for the AV-8A and I can promise you it doesn’t pull 7G at 250 knots.
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kizvy
April 2, 2026, 2:09pm
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But I don’t get why you think max is 24 aoa when it says 26 aoa multiple times, and that it only goes lower when at more weight/speed
I didn’t say it was the ultimate limit
Just max lift AOA and was the limit in the chart I shared
Could be different fulcrum variants but 24-26 degrees AOA is the peak of the coefficient of lift curve
kizvy
April 2, 2026, 2:11pm
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The above chart was for German 9.12a.
I assume that chart is for Russian 9.12?
*At least the IRST it have in game.
Maybe something like one on MiG-23 and MiG-25 could fit (not best view, but it is something)
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kizvy
April 2, 2026, 2:19pm
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Yeha it says it aoa stability remains constant until 26 degrees. But SAS limits it to 24.
See how chart goes up till 26
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More or less in line with the turn rate chart
Depends, because the prototype with radar and fcs (the one that crashed) had a control duct directly under the nose.
kizvy
April 2, 2026, 2:23pm
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Also German manual gives graph with 26 aoa as max.
Maybe the Russian manual is just old id bet when restrictions were 24 degrees and not 26 degrees
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Dzhkグ
April 2, 2026, 2:51pm
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Make sure it’s 9.12A and not 9.12
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Yes it’s not going to make a tremendous difference in lift nonetheless however
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I dont answer absurd questions.
max lift AOA will be much higher.
this chart is shit, source contain fake data
source
kizvy:
aoa stability remains
aoa stability depends of plane serial number
9.13s has 28 aoa sas limit
Lmao ok cope man, it’s literally a Russian document
It’s literally not. That’s not how aerodynamics works.
The F-18 reaches its max lift coefficient at 34 degrees AOA after that it falls and it will achieve less G after that critical aoa.
Both the fulcrum and the hornet can easily exceed 34 degrees AOA but they will be pointing into a different direction however the flight path will still be forward.
I don’t think that’s how the radars on these planes work, I’m pretty sure it’s just TFR an maybe SAR
in movie
maybe
it will flat spin at 27-28 with this v angle fins
mig29 has bigger Cy then su27, your compare with shit f18 aerodynamic is a rofl, it has no high aoa capability
f18 - yes, right to ground
mig29 can keep flight up to 40 deg
Lmao
I’m done talking to you for today. You’re clearly a joke.
9G at .55 Mach
This lines up with the other chart also with only 25% fuel
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kizvy
April 2, 2026, 4:40pm
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I lied it’s 25.5 percent fuel ur right