Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 2)

You could make 2 versions if you really wanted

2007 → pre production series Mig35 with early radar - AE
2021 → Production series Mig35(s - serial***) with - AME

Serial as in whole 6 ahh frames and 6 prototypes… (also some shady stuff about supposedly being developed carrier adapter Mig35 but they are all from 2019 and surely nothing came out of it)

problems with the Thales HMDS report


Im gonna need some help from the Russian community on this

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is the image of the guy using the helmet inside the Mig-29K not enough?

what you can do is to link the video where they tested the HMD in the 29M (i think it was a 29M) to show that it is the same helmet

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@Smin1080p_WT Hi is there anyway if you could ask the bug report manager to re open the comments for me on this report?
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/1cI1EBjqsHnc

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i was gonna but i cant comment on it anymore

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Unlocked it so you can comment.

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They are a bit sneaky with the Mig29 modification, if it is a just K then indeed it would have used Thales as Thales was tested and integrated for Indian Mig29K and then bought and ‘intergrated’ into Russian contract made Mig29K, but there are shady news sources that say that Mig29KR is being integrated from 2020 onwards with new gen ‘indegnious’ design HMD… and with only carrier being in ‘repair’ idk what they actually do with the planes…

(example - 'Французская «Thales» работает в интересах ВМФ России" to which multiple ‘news’ source into, reliable? - idk, most likely not, then there are some that start claiming from 2020 that Mig29KR now uses Russian Made, but the ‘news’ sources kinda political so i am not posting it here)

Ignore ‘Thales’ → then it is ‘Mig29K(R) Late’ that is being integrated with new gen ‘hmd’ but then the report from airshows / exhibiton with R27 would be kinda valid

Don’t ignore ‘Thales’ → Then it is essentially the Mig29K (Indian Navy) and yeah no R27…


Imo too much headache and naming bs simply name planes like this Mig29K mod 2007 and force ppl to do ‘suggestions’ to change it to mod 2017+ or mod 1989, and then reject them as you like

https://web.archive.org/web/20120916152346/http://www.thalesgroup.com:80/Portfolio/Documents/TopSight_Brochure/

Even so, MiG-29K should have either Thales HMD or НСЦИ-КОС installed on MiG-29M 9-41SM and MiG-35 or nothing at all, because there is no indication in the cockpit of Schel-3UM or Sura-K sensors

close up of the same MiG-29M2 from the SIAF video


also the same block above the HUD is visable here as on the Russian KR/KUBRs

Brother, be careful with those words

I know, but i rather have it “proper”. There is technical compatibility with HMD systems, but i am not sure if there is compatibility with HMS systems.

do you know anyone that could have a Russian primary or secondary source on proving the installation of the Thales HMD on the KR?

Unfortunately - no, i am pretty far away from people that work in this industry. Most of my knowledge comes from diving into old forums, books and other media i can find

Out of curiousity - how does 29K fuel consumption looks in Dev, compared to other migs? I assume it a guzzler, considering engines are running on ‘FUCK IT WE BALL’ mode, but I wonder how bad it is.

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Speaking about this, are we sure that FGA-50 and FGA-29 are different radars? From the interviews with Phasotron it seems that FGA-29 was not compelete at the time, they had to reduce amount of TRMs to fit it in the MiG. But they said that production version will be with proper amount of TRMS because MiG-35 avionics will be minituarised fruther, leaving more space to fit the radar. And with FGA-29 and FGA-50 having extremely similar array, i suspect that this is the promised “complete” version of Zhuk-AE

at 109% it is actually pretty manageable. At 110% it turns into good ol’ MiG-29 we know tho. All in all, 30 mins + fuel tank should be more than enough for a regular ARB game imo

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maybe, the whole FGA line of radars is a mess anyway with info lol

I wonder how it is on the Mirage. Or was it something else with TopSight?

doesnt the Mirage use the scorpion?