you are the one that brought up 11Gs in the current disscussion
how is something relevant that somebody that isnt part of this discussion said months ago?
literally the last time it was mentioned was almost 10 months ago and then you were the one bringing it up
neither me nor @GitGood ever mentioned the 11G figure
A picture from the 2020 version of the gordons MiG-31 Book showing the loadouts of the two MiG-31BM variants
If i’m not mistaken, neither of those ended up in service, or at least in full capacity. Unless ofc half of the capabilities of MiG-31BM are just not used. We never saw R-37M on wing pylons, or any A2G ordnance on in-service BMs
yeah the first one with all the ground ordinance is the OG BM that didnt go in to service.
second one is meant to be the one in use with the VKS i think, probably got some details wrong or something
Or maybe just the VKS never uses the wing pylons for it lol
Second one has R-37M only on wing pylons judging by the scheme, so I think it’s wrong
You got that flipped around. The experience pilot is what they want to safeguard not the plane. Its easier and faster to build s new aircraft than it is to train a new pilot
R-77m will come together with other missiles, no chance it comes before aim260. Pl15 and meteor might come before but i doubt it.
R-77M is in service, so It has way more chances to appear with other missiles, and Russia would need something long range (it’s either that or R-37M). 190km is pretty similar to 200km of a Meteor
Meteor is more than that
Then R-77M is pretty much guaranteed to be added, probably R-37M as well
how do you know? the official saab claims are 100+km, 200km is a large estimate
Maybe you should learn how to use the search function before you commented. I’m not the one who first brought up the 11G figure. Not in this thread, not in the current discussion.
Museums are still not always accurate especially for things the people making these descriptions would not have actual information for. Most likely thing is they took a reasonable higher end estimate of 200km
Man, we would have some wild Russian tech based on museum data
Normally, but they’re legally bound to be factual and not at the same time here, hence the ambiguity.
They started at 200 km, not that it was the ceiling.
MiG-1.44 comes to mind
thats not how it works; if that was how it worked china and europe would be stomping lobbies with pl-15 and meteor.
this is exactly how it works. If something like a Meteor will hit the servers, other nations will get similar equipment. R-77M, PL-15, AIM-174B etc.
so you searched the forum for multiple days to get a cheap gatcha
which still makes it still irrelevant to the disscussion that was at hand in this thread a few days ago and not a few months
→ proceds to search the forum for 3 days so he dosent have to adress the point i was making
