Except it is
But I think it’s one of those things, if they fixed other jets F16/18 having a corrected fulcrum wouldn’t be so bad.
To discuss about everything except what the topic is really about.
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Local Harrier schizo goes around stealing conversation topics
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That’s me
how bad does eurofighter and rafale overperform?
most definetly both are ofverperforming in the AoA they can actually pull
but for like concrete flight performance there isnt really any documents
to my knowledge the EF is modeled after the specification of one of its prototype
General Lee doesn’t know what he is talking about then, none of the aircraft in this game match charts properly. A flat sustained turn may come close to what you see on the chart but the actual flight performance and maneuvers of these fighters is leaving a lot to be desired.
The F-15 was totally known for recovering from intentional cartwheels a few feet above airshow crowds, right?
Uhhh, lol? Have you not been on the British side of the forum? They still think the mechanical scan on the Eurofighter in 2026 is viable.
Pics of aircraft in the gunsights of others means nothing, there are propeller trainers with such sights on F-22’s. Total nonsense.
A harrier also has no energy and is a total sitting duck to any TVC IR missile or guns, aiming the nose on it is not as easy IRL as it is in-game.
Why not, when the Harrier is hovering and the MiG-29 is at 0.7 mach the T/W is considerably higher than the Harriers.
Not really
It is severely underperforming… try copying literally any low speed airshow maneuver…
F-5A/E and F-20 are probably the worst examples where F-5E outperforms real world F-20 lol
The Gripen and other Delta Canards are absurd, the F-16 is absurd, the F-18s are absurd… it’s all absurd…
We have hijacked Brit posts many times this is not surprising that it happens to us on occasion.
Neither should be performing backflips and recover on demand.
That isn’t true, both are modeled to match expected sustained turn and peak instant turn rates but this is very loose data.
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I usually don’t go there so I wouldn’t know. British threads are… weird
Dont tell me, tell it to him.
I’m just pointing out his bug report and flight performance issues according to that.
Yes, like most of the high tier jets.
like i said there isnt really anything concrete for the EF and Rafale
Harrier is missing 35% of its thrust at high speed
It will out rate the MiG-23
Which would only happen if the MiG-23 has to engage in extremely unfavorable conditions and not when following proper doctrine.
Not really
A 75% fuel gr.3 out rates a 44% fuel MiG - 23
proper doctrine means a dogfight doesnt even happen
R-24 jumpscare.
S-5P and S-8P chaffs for MiG-23 when?
There are not many examples of an airframe that has been upgraded in that manner over time but none of the other high tier jets come remotely close to the overperformance of the F-5 series airframes in the game. It isn’t close at all.
Tag me in the correct thread and show me, that sounds like an easy fix if true.
Sure, and the Harrier would never approach the MiG-23 if the MiG didn’t want it to.
There is no need to follow doctrine, I could simply fly away on less than 100% throttle and he would never catch me. This is a non-issue. If I wanted to fight him neither one of us is getting shot down by missiles for the most part, so it will always end up in a stalemate with war thunder logic.
The Harrier:
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Like we can talk all day long about how an Ariete could destroy a MiG-21 in a dogfight but I don’t see Ariete’s still in use today.
There is no need to follow doctrine, I could simply fly away on less than 100% throttle and he would never catch me. This is a non-issue. If I wanted to fight him neither one of us is getting shot down by missiles for the most part, so it will always end up in a stalemate with war thunder logic.
I thought matrix meant IRL so I was using IRL logic