Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23 'FLOGGER' - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

That completely makes any of the following information invalid / irrelevant.

The K/D ratio of the MiG-23ML series (even against the Iranian Tomcats) is around ~2:1 so it has the best loss rate of any MiG series when the bomber or third world export models aren’t considered.

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What makes you say that?

Quoting DCS would be like quoting random users on this forum as a source. It’s not one. It’s not primary, secondary, or tertiary. Any information on their forum (like this one) needs to be backed by a source and not taken at face value.

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Any ideas where this manual may be found?

Unfortunately. If I knew, I would put it here. I have only few pages of it.

Do you have any other pages?

Yes. I will send them when I will come home.

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Plz

MiG-23-98

No.

This airframe will not be able to hold itself against 4th gen fighters, have you guys learned nothing from F4F ICE and Tornado F3 Late?

:-(

This is a sentence

As much as i like to see this version of Mig-23 we all know its gonna be struggle bus due to its flight performance.

Its actually Better than F4F and Tornado but result will not be much different.

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While I agree that it would mostly struggle the flight performance between the MLD and the F4F/Tornado is gigantic. The MLD was not hit nearly as hard as the other MiG-23s, and even if it got nerfed by 12% like the other two should, it would still outrate the F-14A when comparable fuel time is selected (9 min on MiG-23 is around 20 min on F-14A when in full AB). If the MiG-23s radar would ever get fixed the MLD would need to go up by quite a bit in br.

I do that in the MLD right now. It has been since the F-14 came to the game.

Quit speaking for everyone if you’re going to be shouting your own absurd opinions.

It’s not absurd, it would be still very much on the lower side of flight performance at top tier. Ratefighting is not everything

Yea please do it against F-15/16,J-10 and Jas-39, against any pilot who has little bit brain activity, you will become dead meat.

Sorry i forgot how arrogant you are and think you can win against any competetive pilot who uses top Tier jets, oh wait you cant.

Again - I’ve had no issues dogfighting the gen4s in it. If you’re gonna lose the fight in the MLD you’ll also likely lose it in the Su-27. Neither is well suited for combat at the BR.

Though it’s rare you need to dogfight now anyway. The ordnance upgrade is the only necessary piece and would play similarly to the J-8F which I find quite fun to play personally.

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You don’t speak for everyone, no need to turn towards directly insulting people or making more stuff up to do so.

Your opinion is NOT widely shared. That’s all.

Not really, your arrogance is quite famous in this forum.

Recent incident with Gunjob proves this really well, as for your “airframe doesnt matter” claim, its compeletly lie.

You only perform good on J8F is due to bein 13.0 which makes it see 12.0 mm regurarly, i do the same thing with JAS39A and Mig29G cause i like bullying Tomcat abusers.

And your “actual” top Tier Service record proves my point, you’re not that guy.