I don’t think all of those variants included it as a selectable weapon in the FCS. We do not have sufficient information to say exactly which variants carried it in real life or could even fire it. All we know is that it mounted and trialed it but was subsequently never used for real service to my knowledge.
Similarly, there were versions that could mount and fire up to four R-23 missiles. They just never actually saw service.
Yes that is what I meant, from what I’ve heard from the DCS part of the community the MiG-23S was the only that was planned and could select with the FCS the R-3R, while not even the MiG-23MS could do this which I’ve found to be surprising.
Well tbf the MS in MiG-23MS stands for Mega Sh**ter…
But yes the 23MS never used R-3R in service and only ever shipped with R-3S. It was however upgraded to carry R-13M in a few middle eastern countries though i forget which specifically at this moment.
There could probably be a whole book written about the MiG-23MS and how it is one of the larger reasons the Flogger series as a whole gets its very undeserved bad reputation.
That completely makes any of the following information invalid / irrelevant.
The K/D ratio of the MiG-23ML series (even against the Iranian Tomcats) is around ~2:1 so it has the best loss rate of any MiG series when the bomber or third world export models aren’t considered.
What makes you say that?
Quoting DCS would be like quoting random users on this forum as a source. It’s not one. It’s not primary, secondary, or tertiary. Any information on their forum (like this one) needs to be backed by a source and not taken at face value.
Any ideas where this manual may be found?
Unfortunately. If I knew, I would put it here. I have only few pages of it.
Do you have any other pages?
Yes. I will send them when I will come home.
No.
This airframe will not be able to hold itself against 4th gen fighters, have you guys learned nothing from F4F ICE and Tornado F3 Late?
:-(
This is a sentence
As much as i like to see this version of Mig-23 we all know its gonna be struggle bus due to its flight performance.
Its actually Better than F4F and Tornado but result will not be much different.
While I agree that it would mostly struggle the flight performance between the MLD and the F4F/Tornado is gigantic. The MLD was not hit nearly as hard as the other MiG-23s, and even if it got nerfed by 12% like the other two should, it would still outrate the F-14A when comparable fuel time is selected (9 min on MiG-23 is around 20 min on F-14A when in full AB). If the MiG-23s radar would ever get fixed the MLD would need to go up by quite a bit in br.
I do that in the MLD right now. It has been since the F-14 came to the game.
Quit speaking for everyone if you’re going to be shouting your own absurd opinions.
It’s not absurd, it would be still very much on the lower side of flight performance at top tier. Ratefighting is not everything
Yea please do it against F-15/16,J-10 and Jas-39, against any pilot who has little bit brain activity, you will become dead meat.
Sorry i forgot how arrogant you are and think you can win against any competetive pilot who uses top Tier jets, oh wait you cant.
