Since the new American F-15 is getting the better engines like the Israeli one. I propose an upgrade to the engines of Mig-29SMT.
The RD-33 Series 3 engines in the game have 3920 kgf of Dry Thrust and 6820 kgf on Afterburner with all the modification researched.
In real life it should have 5037 kgf of Dry Thrust and 8300 kgf on Afterburner.
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Please share your sources. If I remember it correctly SMT’s engines are only missing a few Newtons of thrust.
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Wow, and now add channel losses.
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It is true, they do state that they have around 8 ton of thrust, same with RD93 on JF17, just insane channel loss, although I don’t know how Gaijing managed to sneak out with that data, we know there is channel loss, but apparently Gaijing knows it exactly.
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Yeah I saw somewhere gaijin models usually anywhere from 15 to 20% loss. Which if it is the case this engine is sitting a little under 20% loss.
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Flankers are 2% in game acutally
Smt is sitting closer to 17% after doing the math.
Interesting the flankers are that low.
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Artificial nerf, otherwise they would have bonkers acceleration, Especially in the MiG-29 Astryaka.
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Well the F-15E’s 229s are having about 16% channel loss as well so it seems along the avg.
@kitsune_qq What numbers do you have for the AL-31F engines? I am seeing about a 12% loss for power with my math.
Must be 2% by flight manual.
Idk whats in game
I also found an article that states that Mig 29SMT should have RD-33 series 3 engines.
The engines thrust are correct.
The intake is closed at static speed, so of course it’ll be higher static.
@Zyranovos
There is no artificial nerf.
SMT’s engines produce over 11,000kgf at speed.
@Neothe1
SMT already has RD-33 Series 3 engines in-game.
Correct me if I am wrong, I read the War Thunder Wiki witch states that at stationary, I interpret this as take off, it has 6816kgf, while based on this article https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig-29smt-fulcrum-multirole-fighter-aircraft/?cf-view, it has 8,300kgf at take off. I don’t know how that translates to at speed which you stated at 11,000kgf.
Perhaps if it has 8,300kgf at take off, then at speed could be higher. But I might be wrong on that one.
How do you guys calculate this channel loss, what formulas do you use?
RD-33 has an uninstalled static thrust of 8300kgf.
Installed it’ll be reduced.
Installed into an aircraft with an integral anti-FOD device it’ll reduce further.
Static thrust doesn’t matter that much, what matters more is thrust above 600kph, of which RD-33 grows substantially.
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Thanks for the info now I know that the 8300kgf is on an uninstalled engine.