No, no, no.
Only a top-grade Fox-1/2 for wallet warriors.
Want a Fox-3?
Grind to the top of TT.
That’s what everyone thought about SARH missiles and even IR missiles, and then IRCCM IR missiles, but we are
As dumb as it is, it’s honestly just a matter of time…
yeah i dont want to see fox3 on premium planes, even those who grinded their way to top tier TK me enough with amraams.
also i think someone from gaijin said in a post that premiums wont be wielded with the best armaments in the game, which i think is more than wise.
This is becoming far to common for the USSR tech tree, to be handheld with special loadouts… Mig-29 with R27-ERs, The R24s, The Yak-141 with any missiles… Must be nice to be completely spoon fed armament you couldn’t carry.
The good stuff can’t come fast enough. The next generation of Aim-120s aren’t fooled by low flying, it might force more users to climb and air battle finally. We are already seeing this with the current meta. Half the teams are now climbing and battling it out, and its kind of nice.
It’s really weird actually. The Soviets upgraded a bunch of MLs to MLA standard but never changed the name. Hence the MiG-23ML we have in game with R-24s
No SARH/ARH missile past the first few are affected by Multipathing. For example Skyflash’s Minimum altitude is from its prox fuse triggering from the ground that it is by multipathing. Multipathing in war thunder is there for balance and balance alone. Likelyhood is that Aim-120Cs will have the same 60m MP that every other missile has unless Gaijin reduces it further
The best thing this game could get, is to get rid of the silly multipathing for missiles that didn’t need to worry about it. Funny thing is the flight manual for the SU-27 and Mig-29SMT both say the R27-ERs only work about 3000ft, and when pointed up. Pointed down at the earth below 3000ft they go blind. So not all of them are immune to it.
We are seeing more and more air battles at top tier, the best thing that can happen is remove multi-path and get people fighting in the air again.
Aim-7C does say it has a minimum altitude of around 5 meters.
BVR is quite fun now yeah :D
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wait till this bloke plays the F-4J UK. Where are my AIM-260s at?
it is balanced. you got radar missile and IRST, plus you fought 11.0 a lot which are bunch of fucking idiot with no radar missile and dogshit RWR. shut your mouth or quit the game you skill issue.
I know the MLD was rated to use R-73s but the ML shouldnt even have R24s
I fully agree, mig23 needs a buff to be able to even have a chance against all modern aircrafts. the radar is horrendous, no high range missles, r24t are flare hungry just like r60s r 24t only work if u ever get a radar lock. means you are already dead before even getting rwr ALWAYS
then ML can get 4x R73
No it can’t, only the MiG-23MLD used them in late Russian service afaik. And even then, it won’t get them as gaijin doesn’t want to raise its BR.
Uhm what…? Radar slaving doesn’t effect flare resistance mate, and the R-24T has some of the best flare resistance rangebands of any non-IRCCM missile ingame, second only to the RedTop (yes the redtop) and the R-27T.
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Sure, will be 12.3/12.7 though
LOOOOL WHATTTT I now doubt you have ever even bought the ML R24 T doesnt even fucking work. i fire it and it just goes dumb the first second, it is even more flare hungry than r60s and radar lmao what game have you been playing friend?
the radar of all mig23 is ass, rwr does not even exist haha. please before you speak, buy the plane for yourself
I did, I bought it back when it first came out and I was absolutely horrid at the game. I mainly played it before the radar nerf, but I have extensive experience with the R-24R and R-24T missiles, especially since I spared the MLD about half a year ago and mostly spared the MiG-23M so I could compare it to the R-23 missile (Conclusion: it’s awful).
You need better launch parameters then, I have no such issue.
This is a lie. According to the game files it not only has better flare resistance (which can be located due to the statistics related to “rangebands”), and it also has a superior (because it’s smaller) seeker FOV. Not to mention it has better range at the expense of slightly inferior maneuverability at close range.
I agree, it’s a 4 directional radar but at least it has viable band coverage. Just be glad it isn’t like some of the F-104s RWR’s which doesn’t even show direction lol. All in all, it’s a inferior RWR to the ones found at the BR range, but it’s still somewhat usable (I mean heck the JA37Di has the same issue at 13.0, and it’s still somewhat viable). But yeah, it’s a notable downside.
Again, I’ve spaded the MLD (back before ARH iirc), nearly spaced the M (like 4 mods left), played hundreds of games with the ML myself (ofc it was quite awhile ago, things have changed, but the R-24s haven’t since I last used them) and am very familiar with this aircraft and its representation in War Thunder. Clearly much more so than you if you’re going to make claims like this without proof to back it up. Personal experience does not outweigh facts, which are in this case the files of the game dictating the characteristics of the missile and aircraft which you are choosing to ignore.
this plane needs to have the RN-40 nuclear bomb as historicaly had.
Do you think it’s balanced? The Matra 530F at a higher BR than R-24R?
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